At what percentage does UK patience run out?
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Was reading this article http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/317648/Britain... and my thinking is that the UK has an extremely high tolerance level, but what level is it that breaks the camels back? I think successive governments know that level & ride us up to it regularly.
Personally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
Personally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
69 coupe said:
Was reading this article http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/317648/Britain... and my thinking is that the UK has an extremely high tolerance level, but what level is it that breaks the camels back? I think successive governments know that level & ride us up to it regularly.
Personally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
Lost it!!! mostly alot to do with emigration, seems every week for as long as I can remember ive met or spoken to someone who is fed up with the way things are in the uk and is off mostly to a commonwealth country , so we are left with people who dont realy care will put up with sPersonally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
t, like to be down troddden and moan and winge or people who are cusioned from problems by wealth...powerstroke said:
69 coupe said:
Was reading this article http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/317648/Britain... and my thinking is that the UK has an extremely high tolerance level, but what level is it that breaks the camels back? I think successive governments know that level & ride us up to it regularly.
Personally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
Lost it!!! mostly alot to do with emigration, seems every week for as long as I can remember ive met or spoken to someone who is fed up with the way things are in the uk and is off mostly to a commonwealth country , so we are left with people who dont realy care will put up with sPersonally I would think its around 85/90% before attitudes really change that will garner the vast majority of UK an area where we really do become dangerous to others when we hit those levels. I.E pushed to breaking point where the UK mass follow & decide collectively to do something. WWII seems to me to be that last point.
Or have we lost our backbone altogether?
t, like to be down troddden and moan and winge or people who are cusioned from problems by wealth...What the UK needs to do is crack down on immigration by kicking out any immigrant without a reason to be here (job, business or education), or one who breaks the law.
I'm an immigrant myself, I know I am priviliged to be allowed to stay here, and I know that if I fk about I'll get kicked out. Why the UK gives away benefits to foreigners and harbours terrorists is beyond me. Nobody wants those people here, but say you want them out, and you are asking for a 4th Reich.
I'm an immigrant myself, I know I am priviliged to be allowed to stay here, and I know that if I f
k about I'll get kicked out. Why the UK gives away benefits to foreigners and harbours terrorists is beyond me. Nobody wants those people here, but say you want them out, and you are asking for a 4th Reich.Bing o said:
What the UK needs to do is crack down on immigration by kicking out any immigrant without a reason to be here (job, business or education), or one who breaks the law.
I'm an immigrant myself, I know I am priviliged to be allowed to stay here, and I know that if I fk about I'll get kicked out. Why the UK gives away benefits to foreigners and harbours terrorists is beyond me. Nobody wants those people here, but say you want them out, and you are asking for a 4th Reich.
It dosent afect the politicans or the wealthy and as the UK is no longer a sovereign nation we are part of the EU so nothing is going to change on that frontI'm an immigrant myself, I know I am priviliged to be allowed to stay here, and I know that if I f
k about I'll get kicked out. Why the UK gives away benefits to foreigners and harbours terrorists is beyond me. Nobody wants those people here, but say you want them out, and you are asking for a 4th Reich.anytime soon ...
The UKs patience will never run out.
I like that the UK is tolerant of wkers.
As a country, we tend to laff or ignore them - which is surely the best thing to do.
If that frustrates you, then do feel free to tell powerstroke on a weekly basis, and then emigrate to a commonwelth country where everything will be sweetness and roses.
I like that the UK is tolerant of w
kers. As a country, we tend to laff or ignore them - which is surely the best thing to do.
If that frustrates you, then do feel free to tell powerstroke on a weekly basis, and then emigrate to a commonwelth country where everything will be sweetness and roses.
Eric Mc said:
As ever, which immigrants are you talking about?
How do you ascertain "good" v' "bad" immigrants.
And, of course, as an EU member state we have limited power to remove immigrants from other EU countries.
It's not rocket science is it? Good immigrant - one that works, is paying for their education, runs their own company, or is otherwise non-reliant on the state.How do you ascertain "good" v' "bad" immigrants.
And, of course, as an EU member state we have limited power to remove immigrants from other EU countries.
Bad immigrant - criminal or long term unemployed with no family to support them.
There is also a rather obvious solution to the EU problem - leave it.
Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
I'm not aware of many of them being on benefits or committing criminal acts, however. Criminals do go abroad, Spain a case in point, but they also tend to pay their way and avoid stting on their own doorstep.Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
It's not about getting 'uppity' or whether it's 'good' or 'bad' immigration, it's simply the numbers.As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
We have been aware for years the problem would become major, but typically we just sit back until it's too late.
After his defeat by Wilson in 1964, Douglas-Home even mentioned it.
Remember... 1964!!
"Immigration is a problem and a very real problem in a number of districts... and if we were the government of the day we would have to control it very strictly... it brings about most serious social and economic problems."
Bet he's spinning in his grave.
link to his defeat interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBezNAaEE3c
see from 6:30 onwards.
Edited by dandarez on Thursday 3rd May 10:21
carmonk said:
Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
I'm not aware of many of them being on benefits or committing criminal acts, however. Criminals do go abroad, Spain a case in point, but they also tend to pay their way and avoid stting on their own doorstep.If we left the EU, we would probably find that the ease with which UK citizens can move to and settle in other EU countries would be more restricted than presently is the case.
dandarez said:
Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
It's not about getting 'uppity' or whether it's 'good' or 'bad' immigration, it's simply the numbers.As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
We have been aware for years the problem would become major, but typically we just sit back until it's too late.
After his defeat by Wilson in 1964, Douglas-Home even mentioned it.
Remember... 1964!!
"Immigration is a problem and a very real problem in a number of districts... and it brings about most serious social and economic problems."
Bet he's spinning in his grave.
I think they are FAR more important issues. Indeed, part of the reason why immigrants are so eagerly snapped up by employyers is precisely because of the shortcomings of the native workforce.
I can't open that link on my phone, what's this about, Diana bieng killed by immigrants causing house prices to rise/fall/stay the same?
I'm a big fan of human beings, some of my best friend are humans. I don't really care about much else. Peoe who read the express tend to be the one who create division and tension in society.
I'm a big fan of human beings, some of my best friend are humans. I don't really care about much else. Peoe who read the express tend to be the one who create division and tension in society.
Eric Mc said:
carmonk said:
Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
I'm not aware of many of them being on benefits or committing criminal acts, however. Criminals do go abroad, Spain a case in point, but they also tend to pay their way and avoid stting on their own doorstep.If we left the EU, we would probably find that the ease with which UK citizens can move to and settle in other EU countries would be more restricted than presently is the case.
Chimune said:
carmonk said:
Criminals do go abroad, Spain a case in point, but they also tend to pay their way and avoid stting on their own doorstep.
I dont know what this means. Can you expand please ?tting on their own doorstep.Eric Mc said:
dandarez said:
Eric Mc said:
Which would also put a massive restriction on UK emmigration. Think of all those oldies sunning themselves in the Costas or the Dordognne.
As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
It's not about getting 'uppity' or whether it's 'good' or 'bad' immigration, it's simply the numbers.As always, getting uppity about immigrants sounds all well and good, until you look at the bigger picture.
We have been aware for years the problem would become major, but typically we just sit back until it's too late.
After his defeat by Wilson in 1964, Douglas-Home even mentioned it.
Remember... 1964!!
"Immigration is a problem and a very real problem in a number of districts... and it brings about most serious social and economic problems."
Bet he's spinning in his grave.
I think they are FAR more important issues. Indeed, part of the reason why immigrants are so eagerly snapped up by employyers is precisely because of the shortcomings of the native workforce.
You could argue, in fact I can, immigrants are eagerly snapped up by (some) employers because of what they (employers) can get away with... ie: paying them less. Don't say they don't. I've first hand experience of it!
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