2.0ltr tdi Audi dpf
Discussion
lifeboatman3 said:
Thanks for that. No I only do round town trips and the odd 100mile run less than 8000 per year. I've had the golf gt tdi 1.9 and love the 50mpg so font want to go for the petrol!
What about the higher cost of fuel, higher purchase cost of the car? Would owning a diesel not be more expensive in the long run? Especially if you factor in the potential repair bills which could be a result of low mileage town driving?Be a bit more forward thinking, your mileage suggests you do not need a diesel nor would you benefit other than looking at the trip computer with an air of smugness.
lifeboatman3 said:
Hi
I'm thinking of buying an A3 2.0ltr tdi but hearing horror stories about the diesel particulate filter problems. Does anyone know if the 140bhp model engines have this filter as I've only seen 170bhp owners complaining about the problem.
Thanks
Forget the diesel and buy a petrol as has been saidI'm thinking of buying an A3 2.0ltr tdi but hearing horror stories about the diesel particulate filter problems. Does anyone know if the 140bhp model engines have this filter as I've only seen 170bhp owners complaining about the problem.
Thanks
lifeboatman3 said:
Thanks for that. No I only do round town trips and the odd 100mile run less than 8000 per year. I've had the golf gt tdi 1.9 and love the 50mpg so font want to go for the petrol!
You'll struggle with 42mpg even in the 170ps 2.0.We have this engine in a Leon FR, it's not bad but MPG really isn't as good as other similar units. That said, we've done over 50k and never had a problem with the DPF though we do quite a few long journies where the engine/DPF can get fully up to temp for a long enough period to regen.
Another issue to watch out for on these cars is the injectors fail. VW, Audi & Seat have now launched a recall for these but worth bearing in mind as their £800 a pice fitted.
Edited by Zippee on Friday 4th May 13:11
My mate has a 57 plate one of these. It's had a new turbo, new lift pump, oil pump and lot of other little niggly problems. Has cost him getting on for £1600 so far over the last 6 months. There is an issue with the oil pump and his mother car (same engine) needs a new engine because of this.
Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
lifeboatman3 said:
Thanks for that. No I only do round town trips and the odd 100mile run less than 8000 per year. I've had the golf gt tdi 1.9 and love the 50mpg so font want to go for the petrol!
As many have said go for the 2.0T model. More grunt, better noise, nicer to drive, not a massive amount less economical. Plus all those short round town trips you are doing will knacker the DPF in no time. I don't see why you would buy a diesel if you don't have to. They are still petrol's poor relation in terms of just about everything except MPG.
dave_s13 said:
My mate has a 57 plate one of these. It's had a new turbo, new lift pump, oil pump and lot of other little niggly problems. Has cost him getting on for £1600 so far over the last 6 months. There is an issue with the oil pump and his mother car (same engine) needs a new engine because of this.
Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
Do they have the same engine in the A4 2.0tdi?Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
My work colleague had one and the engine lunched itself at 75k miles. Something failed in the oil pump (or the gubbins around the oil pump) which meant that the engine was starved of oil. It seized up on a journey home from work. Engine was completely killed and it required a full replacement.
There was a variant of the 2.0 TDI which had the crappest and most expensive design of oil pump ever, but it was changed at some point. We had a 55 plate Passat at work with it on. I think you can tell by the engine number if it's got the newer design or not. Then all you have to worry about are the injectors.
RicksAlfas said:
There was a variant of the 2.0 TDI which had the crappest and most expensive design of oil pump ever, but it was changed at some point. We had a 55 plate Passat at work with it on. I think you can tell by the engine number if it's got the newer design or not. Then all you have to worry about are the injectors.
The one in question in my post was a 57 plate A4 tdi s-line.
bodhi said:
As many have said go for the 2.0T model. More grunt, better noise, nicer to drive, not a massive amount less economical. Plus all those short round town trips you are doing will knacker the DPF in no time.
I don't see why you would buy a diesel if you don't have to. They are still petrol's poor relation in terms of just about everything except MPG.
My car is 93k , lives in London traffic , most journeys are under 3-8 miles and the dpf never been a problem . I'm tired of saying this as I don't think anyone here had a dpf fail on a vag car but if it does happen its around 500 quid for removal, delete from the ecu and a nice map which will give around 190bhp I don't see why you would buy a diesel if you don't have to. They are still petrol's poor relation in terms of just about everything except MPG.
funkyrobot said:
dave_s13 said:
My mate has a 57 plate one of these. It's had a new turbo, new lift pump, oil pump and lot of other little niggly problems. Has cost him getting on for £1600 so far over the last 6 months. There is an issue with the oil pump and his mother car (same engine) needs a new engine because of this.
Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
Do they have the same engine in the A4 2.0tdi?Oh yeah and it's starting to get more difficult to start when been stood for a few hours....injectors are probably next on the menu!!
As an aside - where the hell are the injectors on these engines? On the volvo they are dead obvious and I changes one of these easily myself. I had a quick look at his and couldn't figure out where the bloody things were!
My work colleague had one and the engine lunched itself at 75k miles. Something failed in the oil pump (or the gubbins around the oil pump) which meant that the engine was starved of oil. It seized up on a journey home from work. Engine was completely killed and it required a full replacement.
lifeboatman3 said:
Hi
I'm thinking of buying an A3 2.0ltr tdi but hearing horror stories about the diesel particulate filter problems. Does anyone know if the 140bhp model engines have this filter as I've only seen 170bhp owners complaining about the problem.
Thanks
The issue depends on the engine type. The earlier PD engines were far more prone to DPF problems. The newer CR engines (2008ish on) are much better.I'm thinking of buying an A3 2.0ltr tdi but hearing horror stories about the diesel particulate filter problems. Does anyone know if the 140bhp model engines have this filter as I've only seen 170bhp owners complaining about the problem.
Thanks
As for consumption, my Octavia Scout (4x4 Haldex) was a 2.0 PD 140 and averaged just under 43 mpg over 18K miles from new. THe last 3K was better than the first 15K averaging about 45mpg. The Scout is on raised suspension and has the 4wd gubbins so is about 10% less economic than a 'normal' Octavia, so I would expect 48-50mpg in normal 'mixed' driving, about 5mpg less if mostly town stuff.
For 8K miles a year I would probably still look at a 1.9 rather than a 2.0 engine, more reliable, probably no DPF and more economic as well.
Thanks for all the advice. I spoke to the Audi garage that serviced the car and they tell me it doesn't have the dpf which I'm very happy to hear. It's a 07 plate so I'm not sure if the 140 engine has the dpf. I love diesel cars and after having 1.8t golf and 3.2 Quattro a3 I am hooked on the black soot.
It's a 25k one owner a3 with all the trimmings. Im going to see it next week but might have a look at a few 1.9 but they are more money than this one. I will keep.you posted
It's a 25k one owner a3 with all the trimmings. Im going to see it next week but might have a look at a few 1.9 but they are more money than this one. I will keep.you posted
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