997 GT3 - best value road tyres?
997 GT3 - best value road tyres?
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AdvocatusD

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2,278 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I've got about 1000 miles left in terms of tread and need to start thinking of a new set of tyres all around.

I'll be replacing the original tyres on the car, which (as I understand it) are modeveloped for the track and not the best in standing water.

Given that this car will see minimal track use (if at all, primarly for touring) I don't think I need the cup tyres. I'll be looking for a pure road tyre.

I'd be keen for some advice and interested to hear what the options out there are.

It's a 2007 997.1 car, running standard 19" inch GT3 wheels.

Guidance on price too please!

Edited by AdvocatusD on Friday 4th May 12:52

bridey0

2,961 posts

214 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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AdvocatusD said:
I've got about 1000 miles left in terms of tread and need to start thinking of a new set of tyres all around.

I'll be replacing the original tyres on the car, which (as I understand it) are modeveloped for the track and not the best in standing water.

Given that this car will see minimal track use (if at all, primarly for touring) I don't think I need the cup tyres. I'll be looking for a pure road tyre.

I'd be keen for some advice and interested to hear what the options out there are.

It's a 2007 997.1 car, running standard 19" inch GT3 wheels.
from what i understand you'll struggle to get the Michelin Cup Sports that your car wud have come with. Ive got Michelin Sports...good all rounders

arcamalpha

1,113 posts

193 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Micheline Pilot Super Sport. For a GT3, no other non-track-spec tyre is worth bothering with.

Assume you're out of warranty though...

AdvocatusD

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Thanks both.

Yup, out of warranty but can extend (whole other thread!)

Why is this the only tyre worth considering? Surely there are viable alternatives?

arcamalpha

1,113 posts

193 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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The Super Sport seems to be universally loved by all (magazines, contributors here plus more).

I've not used them but they have much of the dry grip of a Cup tyre, but with good wet grip and high performance all round. They're pretty much the latest in tyre technology so should be better than the competition offer at present.

If you run a GT3, then you'll want a top-end tyre (although I can understand why you might not want a track-oriented tyre).

I'm sure you could find other good quality tyres; some possibly cheaper. However, it would seem a shame to have anything other than the best on any Porsche, let alone a GT3.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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arcamalpha said:
Micheline Pilot Super Sport. For a GT3, no other non-track-spec tyre is worth bothering with.

Assume you're out of warranty though...
+ 1, N rating was imminent on these tyres.

purpleperil

1,226 posts

313 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Mermaid said:
+ 1, N rating was imminent on these tyres.
Just been advised that N rating not yet available on PSS - anyone know anything different?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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N rating pisses me off on the Super sport

it was tested on 911's ffs at launch, Like wise the new Dunlop Race maxx looks great but again no N spec but was aimed at Porsche.

SO either buy N spec PS2's or say bks to it and buy Super sports.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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mrdemon said:
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...or say bks to it and buy Super sports.
Not if you have Porsche warranty renewal coming up, unless if course you can borrow some N rated tyres - that could be quite a nice business for someone.

CK_N4S

468 posts

211 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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purpleperil said:
Mermaid said:
+ 1, N rating was imminent on these tyres.
Just been advised that N rating not yet available on PSS - anyone know anything different?
Spoke on Tuesday with Danish Michelin representatives regarding this. Apparently Porsche and Michelin are doing final write off of the Super Sports N rating for the 991. Only then will N rating for 997 cars be on the cards.

I suspect it could be late summer/early fall before they are available with N rating for a 997 GT3 sadly.

As my GT3 is in warranty, I will be replacing PS2's with PS2's for the N rating. And getting secondary track rims for Cup tyres in addition.

CK

AdvocatusD

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Could someone please explain what the N rating is please. Thank you.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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AdvocatusD said:
Could someone please explain what the N rating is please. Thank you.
There was this thread on PH's which answers some questions.


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=225...

betternotbigger

1,059 posts

204 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I have MPSuperSports on my 8 month old GTS. Superbly compliant and comfortable with stupendous grip when you get them to temperature. Very solid in the wet. Road noise on a par with the old PS2s and quieter than Pirelli, Bridgestones, Cups etc.

A definite step forward. Don't need to worry about N spec until car 2 years old. Have put original Bridgestones in the garage for warranty renewal/resale in due course as suggested above.

AdvocatusD

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Any recommendation on where to buy and an idea of how much to pay?

Recommended size? Did what I thought would be a small search and found a lot of different sizes out there!

Edited by AdvocatusD on Wednesday 16th May 15:25

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Buy oem sizes.

ROK

245 posts

181 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Been running the super sports for about 5k miles now. comparing to the oem sport cups

pros

-softer ride
-good stick
-great looks
-longer wear

cons

-softer ride or less feel due to bigger sidewalls

anything less than the super sports would be uncivilized.

AdvocatusD

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Michelin (N2) - £1270.00 instead of £1490.00

Bridgestone (N1) - £1196.00 instead of £1404.00

Been offered the above by the OPC.

betternotbigger

1,059 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Next week

I will have a set of SuperSports available with only 1,500 miles on them

You can have them half price from new

sizes: 305/30/19, 235/35/19

Reply here if interested, would ask you to PM me but have no idea where to look for a PM, doh

Edited by betternotbigger on Thursday 17th May 07:09

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

243 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Still no N rating for the PSS btw. I checked with my local OPC today.

My car is currently on its OE P-Zeros which are pretty superb tbh (997 C2S). Anyone got expereince of the PS2 vs its rivals? Needs to be N rated only.

Considering going for a fresh set of Pirellis again (despite being a Michelin fanboy) unless anyone can convince me otherwise?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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I just put N4 spec PS2 on the GT3 cannot get super sports,

I Like the PS2 had about 5 or 6 sets now , a great dry tyre for the road , easy to get heat into it and very good dry grip.