How much does a 997.1 carrera s coupe manual weigh?
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Hi guys I need to know the approximate weight of my car for the dynolicious app as I've been doing a few test runs.
I had used the autotrader gross weight of 1820kg but that must be wrong as the app is saying my car has 382whp (ie heavier car needs more power to get the same time run).
I did a few runs and did 0 - 60 in 4.52secs with 0 - 100 in 9.61secs and 1/4 mile in 12.39secs @ 113mph. This was with sport on, tc off and a manual launch at 2500 rpm. Does that sound about right for a 2006 c2s? The app is supposed to be very accurate as long as it's calibrated and securely positioned which it was.
I just need the correct weight of my car to work out the approximate bhp, thanks in advance.
I had used the autotrader gross weight of 1820kg but that must be wrong as the app is saying my car has 382whp (ie heavier car needs more power to get the same time run).
I did a few runs and did 0 - 60 in 4.52secs with 0 - 100 in 9.61secs and 1/4 mile in 12.39secs @ 113mph. This was with sport on, tc off and a manual launch at 2500 rpm. Does that sound about right for a 2006 c2s? The app is supposed to be very accurate as long as it's calibrated and securely positioned which it was.
I just need the correct weight of my car to work out the approximate bhp, thanks in advance.
1500kg. 235bhp/tonn power-to-weight. Figures sound possible.. 0-100 in about 10 on a good day.
Is this the app... http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/dynolicious/id28620...
Is this the app... http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/dynolicious/id28620...
It seems that "kerb weight" manufacture quotes in Europe include a full tank of fuel and 75kg driver... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_weight#cite_note...
Hi there
Mine with no driver, no back seats and everything removed from the front is 1422kg, with seats and stuff in it's 1440kg. Car is a 2006 model C2S with aerokit and ceramics. Though does has a sunroof which adds weight back in. Each time car was weighed had approx half tank of fuel. So with a driver about 1500-1550kg is about right.
Good times! Are you just sidestepping the clutch at 2500rpm when launching the car?
Mine with no driver, no back seats and everything removed from the front is 1422kg, with seats and stuff in it's 1440kg. Car is a 2006 model C2S with aerokit and ceramics. Though does has a sunroof which adds weight back in. Each time car was weighed had approx half tank of fuel. So with a driver about 1500-1550kg is about right.
Good times! Are you just sidestepping the clutch at 2500rpm when launching the car?
Hi guys thanks for the info, it seems the car weights about 1420kg (with full tank of fuel) plus 90kg for my weight.
To gibbo I tried a few launches - i got 5.25secs when launching by normal start then only flooring accelerator when clutch up. I got sub 5sec runs and the 4.52 by feathering the gas to around 2500 rpm and then straight off the clutch - this gave an immediate take off with very little wheelspin. I controlled the wheelspin then floored the gas, 1st to 2nd was also very fast gear change.
This kind of thing is hard on the car but it's good to know you can beat manufacturers times and that the car is running well. The app is called dynolicious, you guys should all try it then we can compare results?
It gives a full dynograph result, I will upload my graphs here once I do new runs with the correct weight.
It was cold (6 degrees celcius) last night when I did this, I think on a warm day i could get down to 4.2secs - possible?
To gibbo I tried a few launches - i got 5.25secs when launching by normal start then only flooring accelerator when clutch up. I got sub 5sec runs and the 4.52 by feathering the gas to around 2500 rpm and then straight off the clutch - this gave an immediate take off with very little wheelspin. I controlled the wheelspin then floored the gas, 1st to 2nd was also very fast gear change.
This kind of thing is hard on the car but it's good to know you can beat manufacturers times and that the car is running well. The app is called dynolicious, you guys should all try it then we can compare results?
It gives a full dynograph result, I will upload my graphs here once I do new runs with the correct weight.
It was cold (6 degrees celcius) last night when I did this, I think on a warm day i could get down to 4.2secs - possible?
Edited by knightriderx on Sunday 6th May 20:17
Ekona said:
Warmer day will sap power though.
Was this all done on the flat? Average taken running both ways? Good numbers mate
Hi yes the road I use is flat - when the car is stationary with handbrake off it won't roll and is about as level as one can find for this kind of thing (when looking the 1/2 mile length of the road there is not height difference to the eye).Was this all done on the flat? Average taken running both ways? Good numbers mate
That's interesting regarding the warmer day sapping power, I know on a hot day NA engines lose power compared to a colder day but on a colder day there is less traction on the road so more wheel spin when launching. There must be an optimum temperature I guess, I would say around 10 - 14 degrees Celsius may be better. I did my run at 6 degrees but the car went like a bullet.
I have driven a 2011 turbo and done a few pdk launches in it (was invited to an OPC experience day at silverstone) and that was next level acceleration (first car ever that made my feel that feeling in the stomach you get on a roller-coaster when accelerating whilst actually driving and not a passenger). Having said that there is something much more satisfying about nailing a fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile time in a powerful manual car with all driver aids turned off, it feels like much more of an achievement and requires actual driving skills
You guys all need to get the app dynolicious its very good and has a g force meter etc and offers all kinds of info
Phooey said:
1500kg. 235bhp/tonn power-to-weight. Figures sound possible.. 0-100 in about 10 on a good day.
Is this the app... http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/dynolicious/id28620...
That's the app!Is this the app... http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/dynolicious/id28620...
Probably shoud give it a go at some point, although LCD on a PDK 'box is cheating a litte I guess knightriderx said:
How much does a 997.1 carrera s coupe manual weigh?
I've just weighed the manual for my Clio and it's 756 grammes including the leatherette folder.I would guess that the "manual" for a 997.1 carrera s coupe would weigh around a kilo as it's bound to be made from better quality paper and have more pages.
Well, you did ask !
Edited by amnesia182 on Sunday 6th May 21:21
I tried a launch today in mine, first launch was just let clutch out as normal and then bury the loud pedal, this got me 5.00s dead, I'm use a race logic performance box by the way as I've found dynolicious to not be the most accurate.
I then did a launch with approx 2000rpm and let the clutch out, I got a little wheelspin and then what felt like the clutch slipping followed by clutch smell.
I'm guessing this was traction control as I forgot to disable it? Did another launch as per normal later where I just ease clutch out before nailing power and no issues.
So am guessing for a proper launch TC has to be fully off otherwise it will just burn the clutch? I did not want to try again without been sure as launching the car hard is not something like doing.
I then did a launch with approx 2000rpm and let the clutch out, I got a little wheelspin and then what felt like the clutch slipping followed by clutch smell.
I'm guessing this was traction control as I forgot to disable it? Did another launch as per normal later where I just ease clutch out before nailing power and no issues.
So am guessing for a proper launch TC has to be fully off otherwise it will just burn the clutch? I did not want to try again without been sure as launching the car hard is not something like doing.
Traction control shouldn't have any affect on the clutch as far as I know - the clutch principle is very simple - but if everything's not turned off the car may be putting the brakes on to try to even out the rear wheel speeds - pad material will smell the same as the clutch so you could be smelling either or both.
I haven't got a 997 book to hand, but when I was checking up on my Audi estate recently I read that besides the specified weight the actual weight of the actual car, taking into account all equipment fitted at the factory, is specified on the VIN plate under the bonnet. I got the impression that this may be a standard feature of all cars?
I haven't got a 997 book to hand, but when I was checking up on my Audi estate recently I read that besides the specified weight the actual weight of the actual car, taking into account all equipment fitted at the factory, is specified on the VIN plate under the bonnet. I got the impression that this may be a standard feature of all cars?
To gibbo, I turned off tc before doing it, the problem with tc and doing a hard launch is as soon as your wheels spin in first gear tc will cut the power so you end up going slower.
If done correctly you won't smell any clutch, I did 3 hard launches back to back and did not smell a thing. The key is to ease off the gas as soon as you get the first sign of wheel spin and as soon as traction is back bury the throttle. You also need to nail the 1st to 2nd gear change fast and hard.
From reading up on the net from various car enthusiast sites that have done tests, dynolicious is supposed be more accurate than more expensive gear like gtech etc. You just need to have it firmly secured and calibrated and pointing dead straight. I put mine in the cup holder and use a pair of socks (high tech I know) to wedge it in real tight so zero movement. I also jam thick tissue into the joint for the cup holder so there is zero movement in the holder arm.
If done correctly you won't smell any clutch, I did 3 hard launches back to back and did not smell a thing. The key is to ease off the gas as soon as you get the first sign of wheel spin and as soon as traction is back bury the throttle. You also need to nail the 1st to 2nd gear change fast and hard.
From reading up on the net from various car enthusiast sites that have done tests, dynolicious is supposed be more accurate than more expensive gear like gtech etc. You just need to have it firmly secured and calibrated and pointing dead straight. I put mine in the cup holder and use a pair of socks (high tech I know) to wedge it in real tight so zero movement. I also jam thick tissue into the joint for the cup holder so there is zero movement in the holder arm.
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