Greek nazi party gets 7% of the election votes
Greek nazi party gets 7% of the election votes
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caraddict

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1,092 posts

175 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140686/Gr...

The nazi ideology is stronger than ever?

jaybirduk

1,867 posts

198 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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caraddict said:
The nazi ideology is stronger than ever?
I'm pretty certain it was much stronger in 1939 wink

caraddict

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

175 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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jaybirduk said:
caraddict said:
The nazi ideology is stronger than ever?
I'm pretty certain it was much stronger in 1939 wink
Hehe.

  • Stronger than ever, after 1945?
Happy? wink

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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No great surprise in times of poor economy that people either want free money or someone to point the finger at.


martin84

5,366 posts

184 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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elster said:
No great surprise in times of poor economy that people either want free money or someone to point the finger at.
The economy usually is the issue on which every political administration lives or dies.

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Nazism makes headline but the communists had similar votes and nothing mentioned about them. I am sure the communist countries have killed more than the Nazi's ever did.

(I am not a nazi or commuinist)

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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There is some truth to this comment made in the Daily Mail comments section

"I think that the indigenous people of Europe are getting sick and tired of being discriminated against by their own governments and being treated as second class citizens in their own countries. I'm not surprised by the rise of the right, I actually think more people are in favour of it but are too frightened to admit it !."
- Vladtepes, West Country, 07/5/2012 13:53



elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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martin84 said:
elster said:
No great surprise in times of poor economy that people either want free money or someone to point the finger at.
The economy usually is the issue on which every political administration lives or dies.
Actually that only really comes into it during a poor economy, not really when a positive economy or an uninteresting economy.

The UK hasn't really had such an influence due to the way the centre ground is filled, such low turn outs at elections, the first past the post system and the number of uninformed people in the UK when it comes to politics.

But if you look at the other western countries the further left or further right generally have an increased popularity, with people wanting either more hand outs funded by those who usually employ or lower taxes with a specific someone to blame.

Mr Sparkle

1,936 posts

201 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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The Greek communist party (with 8% of the votes) uses the hammer & sickle still.

martin84

5,366 posts

184 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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elster said:
Actually that only really comes into it during a poor economy, not really when a positive economy or an uninteresting economy.
I disagree. Voter turnout increases depending on the state of the economy. In 1997 Labour won in a landslide mostly due to the Tories reputation for economic competence being damaged in 1992. In 2001 voter turnout was quite low because the economy was fine and people were content with the status quo. By 2010 the economy was bad and people came out to vote.

When the economy is good people generally stay at home on polling day. When its bad and issues start invading into peoples homes, they decide to vote.

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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martin84 said:
elster said:
Actually that only really comes into it during a poor economy, not really when a positive economy or an uninteresting economy.
I disagree. Voter turnout increases depending on the state of the economy. In 1997 Labour won in a landslide mostly due to the Tories reputation for economic competence being damaged in 1992. In 2001 voter turnout was quite low because the economy was fine and people were content with the status quo. By 2010 the economy was bad and people came out to vote.

When the economy is good people generally stay at home on polling day. When its bad and issues start invading into peoples homes, they decide to vote.
...and the turnout last week of 32%?

Edited by elster on Monday 7th May 18:33

Wills2

29,891 posts

206 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Failing economies always give rise to extremists right or left, 18% in France then this in Greece plus it's on the rise in Germany (and they are having the best of it) God help us if their economy tanks.




elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Wills2 said:
Failing economies always give rise to extremists right or left, 18% in France then this in Greece plus it's on the rise in Germany (and they are having the best of it) God help us if their economy tanks.



30% in France if you include both Left & Right

crankedup

25,764 posts

274 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Merkel quickly informs the new French President - no re-negotiations. Interesting times are ahead of us, I can't see a Socialist President going along with that.

Pints

18,451 posts

225 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Wills2 said:
Failing economies always give rise to extremists right or left, 18% in France then this in Greece plus it's on the rise in Germany (and they are having the best of it) God help us if their economy tanks.



Assuming they'd not be taking to the Panzers in the 21st century, what would be the biggest concern to Britain if a far right or left party came to power in a Western European country?

And yes, I'm quite serious.

steviegunn

1,425 posts

215 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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elster said:
No great surprise in times of poor economy that people either want free money or someone to point the finger at.
When it comes to Fascists and Communists it's the barrel of a gun they want to point at someone.

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Pints said:
Assuming they'd not be taking to the Panzers in the 21st century, what would be the biggest concern to Britain if a far right or left party came to power in a Western European country?

And yes, I'm quite serious.
Anything that negatively impacts our economy. We are not under any military threat, NATO sees to that.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

248 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Mermaid said:
There is some truth to this comment made in the Daily Mail comments section

"I think that the indigenous people of Europe are getting sick and tired of being discriminated against by their own governments and being treated as second class citizens in their own countries. I'm not surprised by the rise of the right, I actually think more people are in favour of it but are too frightened to admit it !."
- Vladtepes, West Country, 07/5/2012 13:53
rofl With that name (Vlad!) must be a candidate for the most ironic Wail comment of the year

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
rofl With that name (Vlad!) must be a candidate for the most ironic Wail comment of the year
I have just checked their website out..scratchchin

Negative Creep

26,144 posts

258 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Mermaid said:
There is some truth to this comment made in the Daily Mail comments section

"I think that the indigenous people of Europe are getting sick and tired of being discriminated against by their own governments and being treated as second class citizens in their own countries. I'm not surprised by the rise of the right, I actually think more people are in favour of it but are too frightened to admit it !."
- Vladtepes, West Country, 07/5/2012 13:53
I know we love to mock the Mail, and most of it is justified, but I agree with what he's saying. I don't think politicians realise just how angry the average person is about unchecked immigration, perceived soft treatment of criminals and the human rights brigade. Is it only a matter of time before we see this replicating over Europe?