Borrowed car - Failed MOT...
Borrowed car - Failed MOT...
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tjob

Original Poster:

782 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Hi guys.

I've been borrowing a car for 2 months now, and I've racked up a mighty 2000 miles in the time, mainly pootling but a little motorway miles, and certainly no ragging!

It's a 1.9 TDI mk4 golf with 150,000 miles on it, it's awful if I'm honest but it's saved me a fair chunk of money with not having to insure it (company policy) and it seems to go forever on £20 of devil juice...Cheap and cheerful...

However, it's MOT was due, and I've been asked to sort it which I feel is fair enough, but it's failed, badly...

£942 to be exact...

Full exhaust is corroded (in fairness this did happen whilst I was using it, so I've accepted responsibility for this, even if it is just bad timing it did it during me using it!)

Rear brake callipers need replacing along with discs and pads, and handbrake adjustment...

Two wheel bearings

Various other bits and bobs, probably normal for a 2003 car with such an awful service and repair record..

But, I asked my uncle who owns the car and basically told him the situ, and although the agreement was if anything breaks, I fix it, but this stuff is definately not stuff that happens in 2000 miles!

Uncle basically said, what do I feel a fair contribution is towards the £942 repair bill?

Opinions? It's not been a life saver, it's just meant I didn't really need to buy a car for 6 months until my cousin needs it...It has been useful, and cheaper than the car I would of bought, but what's the opinion of the PH massive?

Thanks frown

richardxjr

7,561 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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tjob said:
Rear brake callipers need replacing along with discs and pads, and handbrake adjustment...

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I'd say your proportion of mileage since last MoT less the total cost of the wheel bearings & fitting.


Golaboots

369 posts

170 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Surely its only worth about £1k anyway.

How much do you like your uncle?

Golaboots

369 posts

170 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Surely its only worth about £1k anyway.

How much do you like your uncle?

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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£942 for work that has become due since the last MOT. Which was about 12 months ago.

You've had it 2 months of those 12. So 1/6 seems a fair starting point - £157.

Then factor in that you've had free use of it for two months, and that a car of your own over that period would have cost you a lot more. I'd round it up to £200 or £250.

What's the cost of the exhaust plus 1/6 of the rest (ie £942 minus the cost of the exhaust)?

Fish981

1,441 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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According to Enterprise Rent-A-Car, their cheapest 2mth hire is £1062. You be better off paying for the MOT.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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The exhaust is the thing I’d be least likely to pay for based on 2 months of motoring.
It’s not really a wear and tear item.

In fact, none of the stuff on there is something I’d expect you to be responsible for in just two months of driving.

I was going to say that you could stump up for some pads.
But really, would you expect to go through a set of pads in 2 months.

How long do pads normally last.
A year at least.
So, at best you should pay 20% of the cost of the pads.

Do the same maths with a conservative estimate of how long discs, exhausts and bearings should last.

If it was me, I might offer £250 as a gesture of goodwill for using the car for 2 months.
But there’s no way I’d pay for 10 years worth of maintenance because I drove it for 2 months.

Jayfish

6,795 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Half of it. Anything less would seem ungrateful considering the free use of the car imo.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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get off your arse and do the things yiou can, like rear calipers and brakes.

Maybe get a garage to do the bearings, but the rest shouldn't be rocket science. I love these garage quotes they are just ridiculous.


crocodile tears

755 posts

168 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I'd probably offer to go halfs.. I'm sure you could source bits much cheaper/do a lot of it yourself if you wanted though

Deva Link

26,934 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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billybob69 said:
I love these garage quotes they are just ridiculous.
I wondered that too - what sort of place did the MOT and who quoted the pricing?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

285 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I find it hard to believe all that needs doing.

I'm sure the exhaust could be patched up - when I was a kid I used to use exhaust bandage and gun gum to great effect for a year or two.

tjob

Original Poster:

782 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Deva Link said:
I wondered that too - what sort of place did the MOT and who quoted the pricing?
It went to a 'friends' garage, who sends the cars to a MOT garage round the corner. I find it a little fishy, but my 'mate' has done the MOT at cost (£35) and the garage aren't going to fail it on stuff if they won't be doing the work anyway?

Typically, the quote is only about £300 on labour, I need about 8 different parts, all £70 odd each...adds up!

Will be taking it to another garage my uncle usually goes too, to let them have a look at stuff tomorrow!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Fair enough - garages generally do seem to be getting ever tighter on MOTs. I was dreading you were going to say you'd taken it to a VW dealer!

Froomee

1,485 posts

191 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Offer to pay half especially if you will continue you using it for another 4 months £450 max for 6 months motoring is good going.

Get the half from your uncle and if you do the work or find it cheaper take that money off your portion as its your time and effort.....

Baryonyx

18,214 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Tell your uncle to go and fk himself for lumping you with this heap of scrap!

tjob

Original Poster:

782 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Froomee said:
Offer to pay half especially if you will continue you using it for another 4 months £450 max for 6 months motoring is good going...
I plan to buy a new car pretty much as soon as its passed the MOT, so I won't be using it any further than, well, now really..

billzeebub

3,888 posts

221 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Halves

Matt UK

18,080 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Complicated...

"Ne'er a lender or borrower be"

Brite spark

2,091 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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redgriff500 said:
I find it hard to believe all that needs doing.
+1

Be surprised if the calipers need to be changed, new seals maybe.
Pads and discs are cheap and easy to fit, bearings might be a bit more trouble though

eBay exhaust if a pattern one is rediciously expensive, normally the cat that is expensive.