3.8RS...Flawed ?
Discussion
I don't think so. Whatever some people may say regarding this being 'flawed' is pure fantasy. I just took one out for a test drive, phenomenal is the only word I can use to describe it. The pick up, the handling, the shift, poise...the noise...
What a fantastic car....from the inside. Sadly, from the outside it looks..yes...challenging.
However, I have to admit after that drive (and de-stickered)...I don't care. Still buzzing.
What a fantastic car....from the inside. Sadly, from the outside it looks..yes...challenging.
However, I have to admit after that drive (and de-stickered)...I don't care. Still buzzing.
seawise said:
Rob,
they are even more impressive on the circuit. get a white one, and have the stickers and wheels done in green, to match your 2.7 RS....
Oliver
Oliver,they are even more impressive on the circuit. get a white one, and have the stickers and wheels done in green, to match your 2.7 RS....
Oliver
Honestly, blew me away.
Had Gt3's before and they were nowhere near this. Seriously considering, No axle lift though, strong money and been there a while. Running the 2.7RS into the welsh hills is beginning to be a worry ( sheep/caravans etc)
Would love to have your opinion on the 3.8RS when you have time...Much appreciated.
Rob
RDMcG said:
Its a great car and a massive improvement over the Gen.1 Brilliant on a track.Not sure what the flaws are, though nothing is perfect...
Fully buy that, but it does beg the question as to why you keep both cars?How do you decide which to drive? I would probably always veer towards the 3.8?
Just asking.
Rob,
i've done almost 5,000 miles in mine over the past 14 months, many of those going back and forth to Spa and the 'ring, and plenty on the circuit. the only costs above the norm have been tyres and nothing has broken or fallen off. it's even pretty kind on the brakes too, and i've done a couple of oil changes as well, just as a precaution.
it just strikes me as a car without competitors, it's perfectly usable on the road, in fact i'd go as far as described it as a very fine road sportscar, but it is also absolutely monster on track, especially Spa and the 'ring. i really enjoy a car that challenges me to drive with care and skill, to get the best out of a GT3 requires a certain approach. i am still learning and that keeps me interested. i really can't imagine not having a GT3 in the garage, they are a breed apart and quite unlike a standard or turbocharged 911.
i've owned a 996 GT3 MK2, a 996 GT3 RS (wonderful car), a 997 GT3 RS 3.6 gen1 and my current steed, a gen2 3.8 RS. each was a wonderful car, but for me as a car for both road and track use the gen2 RS is worth the extra cost. the 4.0 RS i am sure is even more stunning, but slightly out of league pricewise currently. also not sure i'd be quite so 'unhinged' on the track in a 4.0 worth whatever the PH massive reckons they are worth currently.
and it makes a perfect garage buddy for a 2.7 RS - they may be separated by 40 years development, but they are compliment each other very nicely.
Oliver
i've done almost 5,000 miles in mine over the past 14 months, many of those going back and forth to Spa and the 'ring, and plenty on the circuit. the only costs above the norm have been tyres and nothing has broken or fallen off. it's even pretty kind on the brakes too, and i've done a couple of oil changes as well, just as a precaution.
it just strikes me as a car without competitors, it's perfectly usable on the road, in fact i'd go as far as described it as a very fine road sportscar, but it is also absolutely monster on track, especially Spa and the 'ring. i really enjoy a car that challenges me to drive with care and skill, to get the best out of a GT3 requires a certain approach. i am still learning and that keeps me interested. i really can't imagine not having a GT3 in the garage, they are a breed apart and quite unlike a standard or turbocharged 911.
i've owned a 996 GT3 MK2, a 996 GT3 RS (wonderful car), a 997 GT3 RS 3.6 gen1 and my current steed, a gen2 3.8 RS. each was a wonderful car, but for me as a car for both road and track use the gen2 RS is worth the extra cost. the 4.0 RS i am sure is even more stunning, but slightly out of league pricewise currently. also not sure i'd be quite so 'unhinged' on the track in a 4.0 worth whatever the PH massive reckons they are worth currently.
and it makes a perfect garage buddy for a 2.7 RS - they may be separated by 40 years development, but they are compliment each other very nicely.
Oliver
nsm3 said:
Fully buy that, but it does beg the question as to why you keep both cars?
How do you decide which to drive? I would probably always veer towards the 3.8?
Just asking.
I just hate selling cars...How do you decide which to drive? I would probably always veer towards the 3.8?
Just asking.
also I have PS Supersports on the Gen.1 car which are hugely better in the wet. While some have the skill to run in the rain on PS Cups, its a nightmare for me
. I use the Gen.1 for rad rallies here and there. I will hang onto both indefinitely and if there is something I absolutely have to have ( 991RS if its good?), then I will get rid of something else. My OH thinks its slightly bonkers. Probably right.In this kind of weather, I was not having much fun on PS Cups
i have just got back from a long weekend covering a thousand miles on the west coast of Scotland chasing such a beast...
the only flaw as far as i'm concerned is the width of the 7.2 RS, making it near on immpossible to overtake in my 6.1 CS... lol
they are some machine to behold in full flight!
Edited by keep it lit on Wednesday 9th May 18:34
seawise said:
Rob,
i've done almost 5,000 miles in mine over the past 14 months, many of those going back and forth to Spa and the 'ring, and plenty on the circuit. the only costs above the norm have been tyres and nothing has broken or fallen off. it's even pretty kind on the brakes too, and i've done a couple of oil changes as well, just as a precaution.
it just strikes me as a car without competitors, it's perfectly usable on the road, in fact i'd go as far as described it as a very fine road sportscar, but it is also absolutely monster on track, especially Spa and the 'ring. i really enjoy a car that challenges me to drive with care and skill, to get the best out of a GT3 requires a certain approach. i am still learning and that keeps me interested. i really can't imagine not having a GT3 in the garage, they are a breed apart and quite unlike a standard or turbocharged 911.
i've owned a 996 GT3 MK2, a 996 GT3 RS (wonderful car), a 997 GT3 RS 3.6 gen1 and my current steed, a gen2 3.8 RS. each was a wonderful car, but for me as a car for both road and track use the gen2 RS is worth the extra cost. the 4.0 RS i am sure is even more stunning, but slightly out of league pricewise currently. also not sure i'd be quite so 'unhinged' on the track in a 4.0 worth whatever the PH massive reckons they are worth currently.
and it makes a perfect garage buddy for a 2.7 RS - they may be separated by 40 years development, but they are compliment each other very nicely.
Oliver
Thanks Oliver, are PCCB and axle lift a must ?.i've done almost 5,000 miles in mine over the past 14 months, many of those going back and forth to Spa and the 'ring, and plenty on the circuit. the only costs above the norm have been tyres and nothing has broken or fallen off. it's even pretty kind on the brakes too, and i've done a couple of oil changes as well, just as a precaution.
it just strikes me as a car without competitors, it's perfectly usable on the road, in fact i'd go as far as described it as a very fine road sportscar, but it is also absolutely monster on track, especially Spa and the 'ring. i really enjoy a car that challenges me to drive with care and skill, to get the best out of a GT3 requires a certain approach. i am still learning and that keeps me interested. i really can't imagine not having a GT3 in the garage, they are a breed apart and quite unlike a standard or turbocharged 911.
i've owned a 996 GT3 MK2, a 996 GT3 RS (wonderful car), a 997 GT3 RS 3.6 gen1 and my current steed, a gen2 3.8 RS. each was a wonderful car, but for me as a car for both road and track use the gen2 RS is worth the extra cost. the 4.0 RS i am sure is even more stunning, but slightly out of league pricewise currently. also not sure i'd be quite so 'unhinged' on the track in a 4.0 worth whatever the PH massive reckons they are worth currently.
and it makes a perfect garage buddy for a 2.7 RS - they may be separated by 40 years development, but they are compliment each other very nicely.
Oliver
Robbo66 said:
Thanks Oliver, are PCCB and axle lift a must ?.
Don’t have the axle lift on mine, not scratched it yet though! PCCB's thought this was a no brainer - saves weight plus cheaper to put on a build spec rather than later, you can always replace with steel as some have done. I’ve still kept my ceramics on
Trev450 said:
RDMcG said:
Its a great car and a massive improvement over the Gen.1
I'd be interested to know in what way. Also whilst we are on the subject, since they appear to be around a similar price at the moment, would you put your money into a gen 1 rs or a gen 2 non rs?The Gen 2 felt hugely more planted. I have no real idea on prices. Looks like the 4 litre car is the real investmenr grade car and the rest will depreciate for quite a while,but am not an investor.
On track the Gen 2 also feels more planted to me. Nice to have PSM when you want it also. None on Gen 1, the last production Porsche so supplied. The Gen 1 car looks a lot better to me though.
Robbo66 said:
Thanks Oliver, are PCCB and axle lift a must ?.
Neither are a must in my opinion, axle lift i could def live without but it seems a lot of people spec it, as far as PCCB is concerned it depends on planned use and what you like. If u do a lot of track work i think you are better off with steels (as they cost rather a lot less to replace....) for road use you might prefer ceramics. Personally i didn't get on with ceramics on previous GT3s as they offer little 'feel' and strike me as over servoed. You do get a lot of brake dust with steels but that doesn't bother me as i have no time or interest in car cleaning. However others love 'em, best try both really. Robbo66 said:
Thanks Oliver, are PCCB and axle lift a must ?.
Neither are a must in my opinion, axle lift i could def live without but it seems a lot of people spec it, as far as PCCB is concerned it depends on planned use and what you like. If u do a lot of track work i think you are better off with steels (as they cost rather a lot less to replace....) for road use you might prefer ceramics. Personally i didn't get on with ceramics on previous GT3s as they offer little 'feel' and strike me as over servoed. You do get a lot of brake dust with steels but that doesn't bother me as i have no time or interest in car cleaning. However others love 'em, best try both really. I am very happy with the steels. Brake dusy if of course an issue but loads of feel and I have never had a problem with the car bsinf underbraked.
The lift is handy but it depends where you drive. I park in the underground parking of a highruse so the ramps are steep. I have gone through four splitters on RS.1 (no lift) and zero on RS.2
The lift is handy but it depends where you drive. I park in the underground parking of a highruse so the ramps are steep. I have gone through four splitters on RS.1 (no lift) and zero on RS.2
to the OP, availability of a keyboard and internet access doesnt bring with it an automatic soundness of judgement or understanding of technical issues/subtleties. when coupled to the issue of opinion confused with fact its makes for frequently less than rigorous discussions.
the 3.8RS is flawed, if you consider such things as it being unable to drive under water
other than that......
the 3.8RS is flawed, if you consider such things as it being unable to drive under water
other than that......
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