M25 Gatso Gantries

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Gooly

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967 posts

163 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Sorry if this is a well known bit of info, but I just wanted to ask, do the camera gantries on the M25 actually work? Or is it a case of some do and some don't? Does anyone have a clear idea of which ones don't work? Just curious because I'll be driving on it for the first time tomorrow.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

182 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Gooly said:
Sorry if this is a well known bit of info, but I just wanted to ask, do the camera gantries on the M25 actually work? Or is it a case of some do and some don't? Does anyone have a clear idea of which ones don't work? Just curious because I'll be driving on it for the first time tomorrow.
I think they do work, but at what point they trigger I'd not like to say. I may or may not have been past them at above the speed limit and may or may not have been over taken while doing so. I've yet to see one flash.

zip929

670 posts

192 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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AFAIK they are only operational when there is a reduced speed limit in force. If the signs on the gantry say 60 or less then I would asume they are active and adhere to the displayed speed. When there are no signs I have always found you can drive as normal i.e. within the rules of the law. smile

Sam.F

1,144 posts

215 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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I'm led to believe that only a very small number of the housings actually contain a camera, but have certainly seen them flash once or twice in the past.

Gooly

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967 posts

163 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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I'm not sure why I wrote it'll be my first time tomorrow, what I meant was I've driven on it once before on the way to the M23 to get to Brighton, only through a few junctions. I didn't actually know the big bridge things with objects quite similar in appearance to that of a Gatso were actually Gatso bridges, and so I may have gone past them at a higher indicated leptonage than expected, however more than two weeks later I've had no resulting action.

It's not a major issue since my car struggles to break past any limit anyway and is actually incapable of reaching license-threatening speeds, but I'd just like to know.

Thanks for the info so far guys.

Needa308GT4

311 posts

161 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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I have it on good information that whilst all the gantrys are fitted with active scameras they do like to chop and change which ones are live. This they do remotely.

However if ('if' more like 'when') there is an incident and they adjust the variable limit they can activate the SECOND gantry after the first change in limit at the push of a button, and frequently do.

Reason for it being the second gantry is obvious. If you are pootling along at 70-75 and as you approach the gantry it changes to 40 then that wold obviously be potentially dangerous. But it's given you a warning.

Ignore the second at your peril.


The whole gantry thing is a bit ludicrous as I've been headed oop norf at 230am between j9 and j11 when they suddenly flashed up with 40 and on the signs "Queue Ahead". Needless to say, at that time of day even if there HAD been an 'incident' (which there wasn't) traffic was almost non existent.

Great use of public money.....

Genelec

525 posts

162 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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I'm pretty sure they are linked to the variable speed limits and I assume they don't allow much leeway when active as most people seem to stick to the limit. When inactive people seem to hammer through but I still break dangerously to 20mph in the fast lane just to be safe. laugh

Geekman

2,893 posts

161 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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I've seen them flash but have yet to hear of anyone getting an NIP from them. Hypothetically, I may have gone under a live one at ~85 indicated and heard nothing.

fozzymandeus

1,067 posts

161 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Thing is, these active speed limit systems actually work, so, really, if the gantry signs are illuminated, just obey the speed limit and everything will be better.

Stop trying to work out how you can get one over on the constabulary. I hate this concept that all speed cameras are bad - variable speed limit motorways are a really smart move.

Needa308GT4

311 posts

161 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
Thing is, these active speed limit systems actually work, so, really, if the gantry signs are illuminated, just obey the speed limit and everything will be better.

Stop trying to work out how you can get one over on the constabulary. I hate this concept that all speed cameras are bad - variable speed limit motorways are a really smart move.
they are when there is something that's happened.


in the example I gave above there was NOTHING, which then leads people to think that it's not worth taking a blind bit of notice about their so-called 'warnings'

fozzymandeus

1,067 posts

161 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Needa308GT4 said:
fozzymandeus said:
Thing is, these active speed limit systems actually work, so, really, if the gantry signs are illuminated, just obey the speed limit and everything will be better.

Stop trying to work out how you can get one over on the constabulary. I hate this concept that all speed cameras are bad - variable speed limit motorways are a really smart move.
they are when there is something that's happened.


in the example I gave above there was NOTHING, which then leads people to think that it's not worth taking a blind bit of notice about their so-called 'warnings'
They are preventative too, so yes, they might be used when nothing obvious has happened. Still means it's worth observing them.