Cambridge girls offered cash for eggspenses
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The student union and all but one college agreed to this.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16226561
"Professor Adam Balen, from the British Fertility Society, told the paper it was inappropriate to target women in this way".
But
"Two women have so far come forward following the campaign"
Isn't that volunteering?
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16226561
"Professor Adam Balen, from the British Fertility Society, told the paper it was inappropriate to target women in this way".
But
"Two women have so far come forward following the campaign"
Isn't that volunteering?
This makes me very uncomfortable. The targets bother me most, why Cambridge colleges? Why young girls who can be guilt tripped? I know someone who has given eggs and it's not a minor procedure - it's a full op under full general Anesthesia and leaves scars. A mature lady who has already had a Ceasar then fine.
UnderTheRadar said:
This makes me very uncomfortable. The targets bother me most, why Cambridge colleges? Why young girls who can be guilt tripped? I know someone who has given eggs and it's not a minor procedure - it's a full op under full general Anesthesia and leaves scars. A mature lady who has already had a Ceasar then fine.
Why not? Fluster over nothing. It has nothing to do with guilt tripping anyone. They are asking for donors. End of issue. UnderTheRadar said:
This makes me very uncomfortable. The targets bother me most, why Cambridge colleges? Why young girls who can be guilt tripped? I know someone who has given eggs and it's not a minor procedure - it's a full op under full general Anesthesia and leaves scars. A mature lady who has already had a Ceasar then fine.
If they know and accept the risks and consequences, then why not? For some it would be an incredible gift to give another person.Derek Smith said:
New POD said:
It assumes that future intelligence is gene related.
Nature or nurture is a big question. Go for pretty.Nurture is just a fantasy of those who can't accept that people aren't born equal.
Would you question genetic inheritance if a doctor told you that a medical condition was inherited?
Are you surprised when white parents have white babies?
Do you believe in creationism? Denying genetic inheritance is directly opposed to the theory of evolution!
cymtriks said:
Of course its nature.
Tell me: is your inability to use punctuation due to nature or nurture? Can you punctuate if you want to? Or does the skill always elude you?For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked.
And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.5705 said:
cymtriks said:
Of course its nature.
Tell me: is your inability to use punctuation due to nature or nurture? Can you punctuate if you want to? Or does the skill always elude you?For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked.
And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.So yeah, it is nurture as well, but without the genetic basis for intelligence you can teach someone till you're blue in the face but you'll only get so far.
5705 said:
Tell me: is your inability to use punctuation due to nature or nurture? Can you punctuate if you want to? Or does the skill always elude you?
For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked. And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.
Tell me: Is it good grammar to begin a sentence with the work 'And'?For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked.
And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.
Marf said:
I think the point he's making is that there is a large amount of evidence which is increasing as time goes on that shows that intelligence is genetically determined, however it needs to be cultivated by education.
Well, actually, he simply said "its nature" (sic). 25yrs ago I did a Psychology degree at a left wing university and was equally amazed at the number of students and lecturers who really wanted it to be all about nurture. (I didn't even cover the amazing naievety of his 'white children for white parents' thing, which shows he has precious little grasp of the nature side of the equation.)Marf said:
So yeah, it is nurture as well, but without the genetic basis for intelligence you can teach someone till you're blue in the face but you'll only get so far.
Indeed; expressed (over)simply, intelligence and much of human performance = Nature * Nurture. Tyrewrecker said:
5705 said:
Tell me: is your inability to use punctuation due to nature or nurture? Can you punctuate if you want to? Or does the skill always elude you?
For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked. And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.
Tell me: Is it good grammar to begin a sentence with the work 'And'?For sure, it makes you seem less intelligent, and right now, you're probably thinking that I'm a simple pedant, but this relates perfectly to the question asked.
And the answer is that both nature and nurture are involved in what we perceive as intelligence.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff