Need some impartial opinions please

[lestershaw]

Im not saying if I am borrower or lender

Person A wants to borrow something
Person B doesn't know personA but wants to be forum helpful
Person A lends person B an ecu and a brand new chip to try
Person B tries the chip and offers to buy it, but gets refused because offer is deemed too low
Person B finishes with chip and leaves it in the ecu although when it was loaned it was not in ecu
person A who is not mechanical damages the new chip as he takes it out of ecu and breaks a pin rendering it useless?

Person B is not to blame for damage and person A agrees that it's his own fault but person A now has a worthless chip

What should happen?

[xRIEx]

lestershaw said:

Person A wants to borrow something

Person A lends person B an ecu and a brand new chip to try

Que?

[TheEnd]

Person A is unfortunately out of luck.

Depending on the pin, you might get away with it, there's often a couple of unused pins on some chips, plus a blank chip is only a couple of quid.

For extreme MacGyvering, the leg stump could be soldered to enough to read it and extract the info.

[Codswallop]

If person A did not ask for help of the chip removal and has admitted fault for the breakage, nothing further should happen. However, depending on the time person B was able to benefit from the chip and loan of the ECU from person A, I should think common courtesy would be for person B to offer some goodwill payment for the loan of the items.

[SteveScooby]

If i'd damaged something I had borrowed then I would pay for it.

[themanwithnoname]

Standard lending rules:

You bend it, you mend it.
You break it, you buy it.

[lestershaw]

Contigo said:

Don't lend something if you are not prepared for it to be broken is my take on it.

It's my usual take too, but I tried to be part of the " community " on pistonheads and be helpful for a change

[lestershaw]

themanwithnoname said:

Standard lending rules:

You bend it, you mend it.
You break it, you buy it.

The borrower did not damage it, the numpty lender damaged it trying to take it out of the ecu to put back in its original packaging

[martin84]

Some person is going to get a smack in the face if their thread continues to make very little sense.

[lestershaw]

swerni said:

spot on.

themanwithnoname said:
Standard lending rules:

You bend it, you mend it.
You break it, you buy it
The borrower did not damage it, the numpty lender damaged it trying to take it out of the ecu to put back in its original packaging

[james n]

The borrower didn't actually cause the damage? Well Id say the lender is out of luck, maybe borrow should have returned the items in the exact same way they were borrowed (IE chip NOT fitted), but it wasn't his fault.
If i'd borrowed it i'd probably at least offer a contribution...

[NiceCupOfTea]

is the borrower refusing to pay for the chip he broke?

[Abarth boy]

This is very simple. Whoever broke it shoulders the cost.
Job done. Next?

[lestershaw]

Topic closed
I agree its lenders problem
Didn't take long to confirm what I already thought
Thanks

[NiceCupOfTea]

lestershaw said:

Topic closed
I agree its lenders problem
Didn't take long to confirm what I already thought
Thanks

But didn't the borrower break it?

edit: reread the OP - 1st 2 lines make no sense! Person A wants to borrow something - so why does he lend something to Person B

Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Sunday 13th May 21:44

[CAPP0]

xRIEx said:

lestershaw said:

Person A wants to borrow something

Person A lends person B an ecu and a brand new chip to try

Que?

I suspect we're in the realms of "I'll borrow you my [insert item] if you need one"

[Vulgar LS2]

lestershaw said:

Topic closed
I agree its lenders problem
Didn't take long to confirm what I already thought
Thanks

Was it returned in the ECU because it was broken already?

[lestershaw]

No it was in perfect condition on its return. Except the original chip wasnt back in the ecu, the brand new one was and the lender has broken it trying to swap them back and admits he broke it
Yes the first two lines don't make sense, sorry it confused me while I was writing it :-)

[TheEnd]

Well if it is hard to get or expensive to replace, let me know and I might be able to save it.

[lestershaw]

TheEnd said:

Well if it is hard to get or expensive to replace, let me know and I might be able to save it.

Trying to pm you
Will keep trying
Lester