Fork Travel Advice Needed!
Fork Travel Advice Needed!
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jshell

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12,056 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Just bought a new giant trance frame with a 5" travel RP23 rear shock and gonna re-frame my old trance. The frame is XL. My question is, and I'd like to increase front travel more than the standard 5"; what's the maximum I can go for without ruining the bike's handling? Is 170mm too much?

Any opinions?

Sarkmeister

1,699 posts

247 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I think the frame is only warrantied up to 140mm, so that could be a problem.

Personally I think 170mm would mess up the angles a bit, but you wont really know until you try.

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I have a Trance and am quite happy with the 140mm forks, I am not sure I would want to go any bigger as the balance is about perfect for the seat/head angle. I have had other bikes where I felt meddling with the shocks/forks would be of benefit but I have to say I think the balance on the Trance is really good, in fact its a lot better than a number of significantly more expensive bikes I have ridden.

I have changed quite a few bits; bars, cranks, rear mech, wheels, brakes, seat, seat post, skewers, pedals - in fact thinking about it the shock and forks are the only bits I haven't changed!

Why do you want to go bigger?

P-Jay

11,403 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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jshell said:
Is 170mm too much?
Yes.


The 170mm forks will not doubt have a long axle to crown length than the frame was meant to have which will make the head angle slacker and slow the turning rate terribly.

It will void the warranty on your new frame, ok if you do have a problem they won't hold a gun to your head until you admit what forks you were running on it, but it will put more pressure on the head tube and increase the chance of a frame failure.

170mm forks are real Freeride spec forks and you'll be adding a lot of extra weight for travel you probably wont need on that type of bike (not to mention expense).

Plus there are some great forks in the 140mm range that will work brilliantly with your frame, you could even go 150mm (I’m think 150mm Fox 32's) if you did want that bit extra and give you a really great bike.

jshell

Original Poster:

12,056 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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170mm may be pushing it a bit, right enough! I have a 2006 trance XL at the moment and with the seat at a comfortable pedaling height, the bars are just too darned low. So, bought a brand new 2011 Trance X framset with 5" travel and thought that best way of raising the bars and getting the best 'hit ability' would be to increase travel on the front... I know a lot of people do raise the front on these! I already have riser bars and shortened the stem on the original bike.

budgie smuggler

6,054 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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ive got a trance x frame. i personqlly found 130/140 to be good, 150 was too much
just made the handling a bit soggy.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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170mm is way too much. The head angle will be so slack that it will flop into corners. 140mm-150mm is more than adequate for any UK trail. Remember it wasn't long ago that DH bikes were running 150mm triple clamps on the world circuit.

If you're blowing through your travel too quickly then give somewhere like TFT a call and get your fork booked in for some fettling.

The other factor is that 170mm forks are very heavy so you're making your bike into a gravity bike rather than something you can pedal all day, which is fine if that's your aim.

If your bike is rated for 140mm one option you have is to fit some DUC32s as these are 150mm travel but are quite short so when fitted will have a similar head angle to a set of single crown 140mm forks. Try them first though because some people don't like them.

missing the VR6

2,539 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Surely the geometry is wrong if you don't feel happy with the bar height?

I've just gone from a 120mm XC bike to a 140 AM/XC and despite the small increase in travel the bike just fit's better!

welshjohn

1,215 posts

210 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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I'm running my trance at 150mm on the front.That's about as much as you want to go to be honestsmile

jshell

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12,056 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Thought I'd bring this up again as this guy has pictorially represented different forks and resulant angles for the Trance and Reign:



I thought it quite interesting!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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have you factored in your own weight and how much the suspension will sag with a rider on?

jshell

Original Poster:

12,056 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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pablo said:
have you factored in your own weight and how much the suspension will sag with a rider on?
Static sag is set as a function of travel so should remain constant despite rider weight...until hitting a bump of course!