BMW E34 525TDS Touring Manual
BMW E34 525TDS Touring Manual
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HustleRussell

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26,398 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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...I've been looking for a half decent one since the middle of last year. Where have they all gone? The only ones have been abused a bit too much for my liking- people run them on nasty veg oil, don't bother repairing rust or maintaining them mechanically so it seems most are now fit for the knackers yard. Obviously this is a workhorse kind of car- I'm not fussy about milage, only maintenance and corrosion.
All I want is a usable one which has some life left which I can tart up.
Where should I be looking? Does anyone here have one?

rosscobmw

350 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I have an E34 525 TDS, but not a touring. The tourings rarely seem to come up for sale, I've only ever seen a couple. What makes you want a TDS?

HustleRussell

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26,398 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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They do seem very thin on the ground. Quite a few autos but I'm not old enough for that yet.
I know everyone who is in the know says the M50 525i is about the best engine in the world, evaaar and that the M51 525TDS is 'barely any more economical', and this may well be true. However, I intend to use this car mostly for long journeys and towing approx 1000kg on a trailer, so torque and quietness at cruising speed is what I want. I have gotten used to the bottom end shove of the TDCI engine in my boring Mondeo. I test drove a 525i and was disappointed- I felt that I'd have to rag the nuts off it to make progress and if I did so the TDS would be more economical.

HustleRussell

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26,398 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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BTTT

TheEnd

15,370 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Have you considered the E39 525tds?

The ones called "tds" have the same engines, newer, less rust etc.

HustleRussell

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26,398 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Prefer the look and relative mechanical simplicity of the E34.

rallycross

13,731 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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1 - rare even when new
2 - hence very few on the road now
3 - most had already done 100,000 miles in the first 3 yrs ( ie 13+ yrs ago)
4 - hard to find one less than average of 12k miles per year (15+ yrs old)
4 - rust started setting in about 6-18 yrs ago on these E34' cars.

HustleRussell

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26,398 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Yeah but even rubbish cars gather an enthusiast following after nearly 20 years... I refuse to believe there aren't good ones out there. My usual favourite source for cars for private sale is owner's club forums and classifieds- There seems to be a multitude of BMW forums but no one of them seems to be busy, so that leaves me with Pistonheads (old diesel not a very PH friendly car), Autotrader and eBay (attract scruffy trade cars and knackers) and Gumtree/preloved etc (don't attract enthusiast sellers).

InfoRetrieval

390 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I suspect that all the good ones are now owned by enthusiasts who have no intention of selling. That's the impression I got when I bought my E34 525i back in 2004 and I don't see how it can be much different now.

My only advice would be to be prepared to travel. Don't know where you're based, OP, but I found mine in rural Dorset. Probably outside the range of London buyers. Had to look at a lot of dogs before I found mine though.

Good luck.

rosscobmw

350 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I love the m51 engine. A few simple mods turned mine into quite a monster. But yeah, they're not economical, at all. Brilliant fun, nice sounding for a diesel too.

MadeinWigan

224 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I had an E34 525 tds touring a few years ago, it was a lovely car with decent performance but, being a manual which has shorter gearing than the auto, the economy wasn't great. On my 100 miles commute I'd get max 37mpg out of it. By comparison on the same journey my passat tdi would get 63mpg and my E34 540i 6 speed touring would get 30mpg. All cars would be cruising at 70mph on the motorway/ A roads.

E34's are great cars and I'd always recommend buying one, just don't expect great economy out of them.

buggalugs

9,279 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I had one a few years ago too, really loved it. Not that economical though would truggle to beat high 30's mpg. Mine had over 300000 miles on it when I sold it, with a slipping clutch and an 8 ball for a gearknob.