Mobile cranes on mways in rush hour
Mobile cranes on mways in rush hour
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LoonR1

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26,988 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Why do there seem to be so many of these mobile "chicranes" on the M62.

Saw three today causing some nice tailbacks and two going the other way. Surely given they manage to drive at c30mph then it'd make more sense if they trundled to where they're going overnight rather than causing some hefty tailbacks.

Seeing one is a pretty regular occurrence so is it some sort of conspiracy to clog up the motorways?

98elise

32,160 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Because they need to be somewhere at the start of the working day?

Bitzer

4,551 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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See also JCBS, Tractors and Road Cleaners.

y2blade

56,307 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Maybe think before asking?



robmlufc

5,229 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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The M62 is a shower of st at the moment. Cranes, road works, breakdowns every day!!!

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

292 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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LoonR1 said:
Why do there seem to be so many of these mobile "chicranes" on the M62.

Saw three today causing some nice tailbacks and two going the other way. Surely given they manage to drive at c30mph then it'd make more sense if they trundled to where they're going overnight rather than causing some hefty tailbacks.

Seeing one is a pretty regular occurrence so is it some sort of conspiracy to clog up the motorways?
God yes, and cylists - why don't they only travel at night too?
And horses.
And everyone except you.

Everyone else is so selfish, the bds.

Krikkit

27,918 posts

208 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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In fairness LoonR1 has a point - moving a huge mobile crane at 40mph up a highly busy motorway at rush hour is pretty inconsiderate of the traffic problems you'll cause - other large loads are governed as to when they can be moved, why not cranes?


Dusty964

7,272 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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But most mobile cranes are not actually that big?

Its the volume of traffic thats the problem, not the type of traffic surely?


gabbo

77 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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If they moved at night, someone would be paying the overnight costs, if they moved early hours of the morning they wouldnt be able to complete the day due to total shift time. Thought they paid RFL anwyay?

LoonR1

Original Poster:

26,988 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Krikkit said:
In fairness LoonR1 has a point - moving a huge mobile crane at 40mph up a highly busy motorway at rush hour is pretty inconsiderate of the traffic problems you'll cause - other large loads are governed as to when they can be moved, why not cranes?
Thank you. To those of you who think this is a "why is everyone in my way" thread it isn't. It's a genuine question as to why I see these so frequently at least twice a week and why always at rush hour.

I don't see them outside rush hour ever.

Two of the three cranes needed escorts as they were travelling so slowly. The other maybe a bit quicker. There was a load of traffic piling up behind each of them with HGVs occupying lane 2 pretty well exclusively and cars in lane 3. Unless there's some major building work on Saddleworth then they'll be travelling a fair distance so unlikely to make it for the start of the working day.

As I said its a genuine question. Especially when I see similar size cranes going in the opposite direction too

Dusty964

7,272 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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They need to go to work, the same as you presumably are at Rush hour- is it inconsiderate of you to be blocking up the road too?

As i said earlier, the problem isnt the type of traffic, is the quantity- the roads simply cannot cope.


LoonR1

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26,988 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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FFS I give in. If that's the best answer anyone can come up with then fine.

So Mr Ainscough needs to move one mobile crane up the motorway in one direction at rush hour and an identical one in the opposite direction at the same time on the same day so that they can both get to work at opposite ends of the M62 from where they worked yesterday. And he needs to do this two or three times a week?

FoundOnRoadside

436 posts

171 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Scotty hasn't invented the site-to-site transporter, so how do you suggest they get their cranes from one place to the other?

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

292 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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LoonR1 said:
FFS I give in. If that's the best answer anyone can come up with then fine.

So Mr Ainscough needs to move one mobile crane up the motorway in one direction at rush hour and an identical one in the opposite direction at the same time on the same day so that they can both get to work at opposite ends of the M62 from where they worked yesterday. And he needs to do this two or three times a week?
Take a day off, follow a crane and ask the driver. Then come back and awe the internet with the magic secret of crane migration/tedious logistics.

Dog Star

17,465 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Why the vitriol against Loon? Totally valid question IMO - I'm sick of these things causing huge tailbacks - they aren't capable of travelling at a "reasonable" motorway speed - so they should stay off til it's quiet.

And heres a novel idea: why don't the people in Yorkshire hiring the cranes from Lancashire and the people in Lancashire hiring the cranes from Yorkshire come to some kind of arrangement and rent the local cranes and solve the problem completely? confused

cocopop

1,300 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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FoundOnRoadside said:
Scotty hasn't invented the site-to-site transporter, so how do you suggest they get their cranes from one place to the other?
A giant catapult.

GTIR

24,741 posts

293 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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It's partly the numpties on the road who should look more than just beyond their bonnet and see a huge yellow object with flashing beacons ahead and realise it will probably be traveling slower than trucks, which is why the trucks are indicating way before so numpties can see that they may want to come out.

Oh and bikers, why can't they just ride at night?
Tossers. Especially R1 riders. Gheys.







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LoonR1

Original Poster:

26,988 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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GTIR said:
It's partly the numpties on the road who should look more than just beyond their bonnet and see a huge yellow object with flashing beacons ahead and realise it will probably be traveling slower than trucks, which is why the trucks are indicating way before so numpties can see that they may want to come out.

Oh and bikers, why can't they just ride at night?
Tossers. Especially R1 riders. Gheys.







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I know other roadusers don't help but neither does a rolling roadblock.

PS - I don't ride the R1 on the road just track. The road bike would only be a blur to most drivers anyway but I don't use that to commute.

Grandad Gaz

5,281 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Their working day up where you live must be different to those in the south, then wink

Down here, I only ever see them on the road about 6am. They are on site by about 7, as it takes them a while to get set up, ready for the contractors to start work at 8am.

Badgerboy

1,794 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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The OP is correct. Moving a very large vehicle at 40mph at rush hour is ridiculous when you think that the majority of traffic is travelling between 56-70mph. Yes, they need to be able to use the road network to get to their destination, but they should be doing so in the early hours to take account of the exceptionally large size of the load.

I think it's called being considerate.