Mild rant ... Why do (P&O) ferries do this?
Discussion
Calais-Dover yesterday evening. The car deck was 25% full yet the loaders insisted on packing every car into one corner with the inevitable scraping between cars and door bashing.
WHY! Do they play football in the empty spaces during the crossing?
Leaving a nice empty lane between cars would still retain 50% of the deck for last minute arrivals whilst pleasing so many passengers.
WHY! Do they play football in the empty spaces during the crossing?
Leaving a nice empty lane between cars would still retain 50% of the deck for last minute arrivals whilst pleasing so many passengers.
mrmr96 said:
Doing alternate lanes seems like a reasonable idea if the ferry's not full actually. But would the loaders be told that?
When I worked on them, the entire ship would know what we were loading.My favorite being "loading, loading now. Loading 12 cars, 3 heavies, 1 caravan an 42 coaches of Scottish football supporters...."
<Suggestion>
Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
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Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
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DaveH23 said:
<Suggestion>
Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
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If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
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mrmr96 said:
DaveH23 said:
<Suggestion>
Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
Might get a better answer posting it here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.
</end stupid suggestion>
Might get a better answer posting it here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
I use the Isle of Wight ferries most days and the loaders invariably leave a gap between rows if the boat isn't full. When it is full they try to stagger the cars so that at least the front doors on each car open into the small gap between the front and rear of the cars next to you.
My personal strategy is to stay in my car with the lights on and windows down scowling at the people in the cars around me until they have left the car deck without denting my car and then saunter up last. . . . . . .
My personal strategy is to stay in my car with the lights on and windows down scowling at the people in the cars around me until they have left the car deck without denting my car and then saunter up last. . . . . . .

mrmr96 said:
If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.
But would gather more momentum whilst doing so, and have a greater effect on the ship's loading. I think you'll find that, when all the passengers have left the car deck, the rear cars in the file are restrained with wheelblocks and chains to prevent cross-channel pinball, it's harder to do this if they are scattered all over the deck.BrianR said:
Fair point - I work for P&O Ferries so I've sent a note to the ships reminding that if there's space to play with on the car decks, customers appreciate a bit of room between their cars.
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They do the same thing on the channel tunnel trains. I regularly have discussions with the loading staff about why I don't want my car 2 inches from the car in front given the amount of movement when the train is rolling.
It's even more irritating when you are the last car in the carriage and there is 15 feet of empty space behind you.
I now go in the "tall vehicle" carriage where they seem less bothered about packing you in.
It's even more irritating when you are the last car in the carriage and there is 15 feet of empty space behind you.
I now go in the "tall vehicle" carriage where they seem less bothered about packing you in.
DJC said:
I asked a ship operator (not P&O) about this a while back and they said it was for 'safety reasons'.
If I'm ever travelling in something vaguely nice I'll always take the Channel Tunnel now for this reason!
do they ever secure cars on the car decks during cross channel runs ? as has been suggested a breakaway car in a car deck that had vehicles spread out would ping around like a snooker ball in rough seas If I'm ever travelling in something vaguely nice I'll always take the Channel Tunnel now for this reason!
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