Mild rant ... Why do (P&O) ferries do this?
Mild rant ... Why do (P&O) ferries do this?
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HON2A

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446 posts

198 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Calais-Dover yesterday evening. The car deck was 25% full yet the loaders insisted on packing every car into one corner with the inevitable scraping between cars and door bashing.

WHY! Do they play football in the empty spaces during the crossing?

Leaving a nice empty lane between cars would still retain 50% of the deck for last minute arrivals whilst pleasing so many passengers.




mrmr96

13,736 posts

231 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Doing alternate lanes seems like a reasonable idea if the ferry's not full actually. But would the loaders be told that?

Cyder

7,185 posts

247 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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We went Portsmouth-Caen a few weeks ago and the ferry was quite quiet. They spaced us across 3 lanes of the 5 available which helped my door opening OCD!

Mr E

22,979 posts

286 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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mrmr96 said:
Doing alternate lanes seems like a reasonable idea if the ferry's not full actually. But would the loaders be told that?
When I worked on them, the entire ship would know what we were loading.

My favorite being "loading, loading now. Loading 12 cars, 3 heavies, 1 caravan an 42 coaches of Scottish football supporters...."

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

225 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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its a RO RO boat. Roll on, roll off. Execpt the captin hit the dover docks and fked one end of the boat, meaning you have to exit the way you entered, the gap is for a one way system. true story.

Gwiz

DaveH23

3,355 posts

197 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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<Suggestion>

Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.

</end stupid suggestion>

Might get a better answer posting it here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...


mrmr96

13,736 posts

231 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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DaveH23 said:
<Suggestion>

Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.

</end stupid suggestion>

Might get a better answer posting it here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.

tangerine_sedge

6,558 posts

245 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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mrmr96 said:
DaveH23 said:
<Suggestion>

Would it not be something to do in the event of an accident/really really really rough seas? Rather than have the momentum of all those cars bashing off each other and sliding about there will be less movement by them if they were packed together.

</end stupid suggestion>

Might get a better answer posting it here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.
I assume, that it is to reduce the danger if a single car suffers a handbrake failure, i.e. it will cause damage to the cars around it, but wouldn't whizz around all over a half empty deck.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

184 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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I use the Isle of Wight ferries most days and the loaders invariably leave a gap between rows if the boat isn't full. When it is full they try to stagger the cars so that at least the front doors on each car open into the small gap between the front and rear of the cars next to you.

My personal strategy is to stay in my car with the lights on and windows down scowling at the people in the cars around me until they have left the car deck without denting my car and then saunter up last. . . . . . . wink

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

205 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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mrmr96 said:
If they were spaced out then they would have to shift further to make contact.
But would gather more momentum whilst doing so, and have a greater effect on the ship's loading. I think you'll find that, when all the passengers have left the car deck, the rear cars in the file are restrained with wheelblocks and chains to prevent cross-channel pinball, it's harder to do this if they are scattered all over the deck.

BrianR

1 posts

170 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Fair point - I work for P&O Ferries so I've sent a note to the ships reminding that if there's space to play with on the car decks, customers appreciate a bit of room between their cars.

Cyder

7,185 posts

247 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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BrianR said:
Fair point - I work for P&O Ferries so I've sent a note to the ships reminding that if there's space to play with on the car decks, customers appreciate a bit of room between their cars.
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Marvellous stuff, thanks!

C8H18Head

Original Poster:

446 posts

198 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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BrianR said:
Fair point - I work for P&O Ferries so I've sent a note to the ships reminding that if there's space to play with on the car decks, customers appreciate a bit of room between their cars.
The Power of Pistonheads! Assuming it's genuine, the Head of Press and Public Relations at P&O registers and performs. Good work Sir!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0...

http://www.poferries.com/tourist/content/pages/tem...

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eltax91

10,737 posts

233 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Custard test? If not, I call wind up!

shipley

266 posts

282 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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They do the same thing on the channel tunnel trains. I regularly have discussions with the loading staff about why I don't want my car 2 inches from the car in front given the amount of movement when the train is rolling.

It's even more irritating when you are the last car in the carriage and there is 15 feet of empty space behind you.

I now go in the "tall vehicle" carriage where they seem less bothered about packing you in.


vit4

3,507 posts

197 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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eltax91 said:
Custard test? If not, I call wind up!
I really hope that it isn't - fantastic customer service if it's genuine thumbup

R1 Indy

4,503 posts

210 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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wow!! If Brian is genuine P+O have just gone up in my estimations.

DJC

4,121 posts

235 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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I asked a ship operator (not P&O) about this a while back and they said it was for 'safety reasons'.

If I'm ever travelling in something vaguely nice I'll always take the Channel Tunnel now for this reason!

V8A*ndy

3,697 posts

218 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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BrianR said:
Fair point - I work for P&O Ferries so I've sent a note to the ships reminding that if there's space to play with on the car decks, customers appreciate a bit of room between their cars.
Result! All we need now is someone from Stena Line to do the same thing.


mph1977

12,467 posts

195 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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DJC said:
I asked a ship operator (not P&O) about this a while back and they said it was for 'safety reasons'.

If I'm ever travelling in something vaguely nice I'll always take the Channel Tunnel now for this reason!
do they ever secure cars on the car decks during cross channel runs ? as has been suggested a breakaway car in a car deck that had vehicles spread out would ping around like a snooker ball in rough seas