The merits or otherwise of cooling system leak stop products
The merits or otherwise of cooling system leak stop products
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BigNige

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2,584 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Like Bars or Radweld?

What is the swarms opinion on them in modern engines?


Mister3man

280 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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BigNige said:
Like Bars or Radweld?

What is the swarms opinion on them in modern engines?
Ok as a temporary measure to get you home.

I wouldn't rely on them as a permanent repair though.

cuprabob

18,850 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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It's a no from me

BigNige

Original Poster:

2,584 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Mister3man said:
Ok as a temporary measure to get you home.

I wouldn't rely on them as a permanent repair though.
Any particular reason why?
Some of these things place themselves as quasi permanent fixes.

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Might depend upon whether you're wanting to sell or PEx the car in question, or keep it?

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,836 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Avoid.
They make a horrible mess of the entire water system.
Fine in an old snotter you want to sell soon, or don't really care about, but not in a car you want to keep.

Dominicc01

530 posts

193 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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BigNige said:
Any particular reason why?
Some of these things place themselves as quasi permanent fixes.
Depends how big the hole is, tbh. If it manages to seal the hole properly, it can be semi-permanent. Back when I was a teenager I had a Rover 620. The only part of that car's engine which was Rover was the cooling system, and it was properly st. The radiator is not particularly well protected by the front grille, and is easily damaged from road debris. By the time I got it, the radiator was like a sieve. It got to the stage where the coolant was about 50% Radweld, and it still sprayed water out when it felt like it. Good shed though.

Mister3man

280 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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BigNige said:
Any particular reason why?
Some of these things place themselves as quasi permanent fixes.
Just through my own experience really.

I've sealed leaking radiators with them when attending broken down vehicles and always advise it to be only a temporary repair.

If the customer doesn't replace the leaking component straight away they start leaking again soon after, normally within 3 months (and I don't think it's advisable to put more than one rad seal in a cooling system)

Jem0911

4,415 posts

227 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I had an annoying trickle from a Range Rover that no one could find.

I replaced nearly four hundred pounds worth of the water system.

Still the level wouldn't hold.

One treatment of Radweld stopped it.
Had the car for a year with no problems after the treatment.

paintman

7,857 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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BigNige said:
Any particular reason why?
Because they're designed to bung up things in your cooling system. Unfortunately they can't differentiate between what they're SUPPOSED to bung up & parts with narrow passages.
Strictly emergency use only.

James_N

3,292 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Used bars in an old Volvo 740 to stop a small leak. It was still fine 12 months later when I crashed it!

B'stard Child

30,893 posts

272 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Nasty stuff - hate it - get you home only - otherwise fix the bloody problem properly

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I used it in an emergency about 3 weeks ago. Ordered a new rad and fitted it and had horrendous trouble bleeding it afterwards. Turns out it has bunged up my heater control valve and now I have no heating. Will probably end up more expensive than the radiator in the end.
I used K-seal, if it makes any difference.

s m

24,307 posts

229 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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BigNige said:
Like Bars or Radweld?

What is the swarms opinion on them in modern engines?
Any truth in the rumour that one big manufacturer ( was it Jag? ) used to put a similar product in their cooling systems from new?

ETA ( it was Jag )
Jag handbook refuted said:
Do not, under any circumstances, add Barrs Leaks with a coolant change as the owner's manual instructs you. This stuff is also known as 'Stuck Heads' and will make the removal of the head much more difficult (and costly). In addition, it is known to clog the radiator and thermostat in the XJ6, causing it to lose much of it's desperately needed cooling capacity. It is thought by some that this stuff can also contribute to the above-mentioned stud corrosion. While Barrs Leaks may work fine in other engine designs, it really isn't compatible with the XJ. The factory simply made a mistake. If it has been added to your XJ, the maker of Barrs Leaks also makes a flush to remove the stuff from the system.




Edited by s m on Monday 21st May 08:34

Dr Interceptor

8,182 posts

222 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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s m said:
Any truth in the rumour that one big manufacturer ( was it Jag? ) used to put a similar product in their cooling systems from new?
hehehehehehe

...and also some manufacturers (who by self confession make the best cars in the world) used to put resistors on the back of temperature gauges so they didn't read so high, and 'alarm' owners!

Back on topic...

jbi

12,698 posts

230 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Tried it once.. Clogged the hell out of the waterways and ruined the air idle control valve.

s m

24,307 posts

229 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Dr Interceptor said:
s m said:
Any truth in the rumour that one big manufacturer ( was it Jag? ) used to put a similar product in their cooling systems from new?
hehehehehehe

...and also some manufacturers (who by self confession make the best cars in the world) used to put resistors on the back of temperature gauges so they didn't read so high, and 'alarm' owners!

Back on topic...
You mean BMW I guess

LuS1fer

43,354 posts

271 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Can clog your radiator.

djdestiny

6,542 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Back in the day ( around 1991) I put radweld in my XR3i and it never leaked again for the 2 years or so after that I owned it.
But, I would never use it in a modern engine these days

Dr Interceptor

8,182 posts

222 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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s m said:
You mean BMW I guess
Try Rolls-Royce wink