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virgil

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1,557 posts

248 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Where have they gone? They were a great resource with some great articles.....

Is there another site hosting the same stuff?

Cheers, Virgil.

Edited by virgil on Monday 21st May 18:43

Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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they are still there just not their entirity........ maybe its time someone who undersstands web pages approaches simon with a view to keep them running smile

http://tvrgriffith.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Quite a lot of similar stuff on the Chimaera pages.

http://www.chimaerapages.com/

virgil

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Still there, but none of the content works...or more precisely to say nothing bar the first few lines of each topic and no pictures...

Sad as it was a great resource.

Chimaera pages don't have the same details...engine rebuilds, chassis restorations...

virgil

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Still there, but none of the content works...or more precisely to say nothing bar the first few lines of each topic and no pictures...

Sad as it was a great resource.

Chimaera pages don't have the same details...engine rebuilds, chassis restorations...

TimJM

1,497 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Does a version of the old content exist or a version of the new content in full?

From reading what is available on the site it looks like the old site was attacked by hackers and content was lost. It would be an interesting project to look at restoring the content if it exists an any readable form. Even if the content is lost by the site owner there still might be a way to get it back from various search caches.

Does the site owner claim any copyrights on the material? I might have a look one of the evenings if anything can be done but I don't want to tread on any toes.

Tim.

Barreti

6,687 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Tim,

The owner Ballistic Banana is working on restoring this site. Hence it is up but in a less than perfect state.

He is a friend of mine so I'll ask him about it though as I wouldn't mind getting it sorted out too.


V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I sent a mail to Simon a while back (he didn't reply to me) but I think that spurred him on to at least sort the link out.

I'd be happy to host the pages or even via the club website (I'd ensure they'd still be available without joining)

virgil

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Barreti said:
Tim,

The owner Ballistic Banana is working on restoring this site. Hence it is up but in a less than perfect state.

He is a friend of mine so I'll ask him about it though as I wouldn't mind getting it sorted out too.
Pointless utter vandalism (the hacking - not the site!)

It's a shame as it was obviously a labour of love for BB. I'm guessing each of the contributors may have some of the original content they could re-supply if needed??

It's a matter of effort, so if there's any way I can help with arranging articles or recreating detail let me know...certainly not a web expert, but with a push in the right direction, maybe a consortium of helpers might speed things up??

Or just give BB a kick up the jacksie and tell him to get on with it :-)

Ballistic Banana

14,704 posts

291 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Sorry I have responded to your mail V8Griff.
I have asked for help in the techie forums a few times now as its beyond me how to get the old site back up.
As far as I know everything is still there. The software I used means that the text for the pages wasn't saved as say apache in a book. I do however have backed up all pictures and texts sent to me along with loads of other Griffith related info I have gathered myself over the years. I am reluctant to let that info go as it has personal stuff in there too.
If some one wants to help try and get the site running again I'm more than happy to let them have admin rights etc to take a look. They would however need some knowledge in joomla.
Infortunaetly in a bid by me to migrate all info into a new site didn't go as it should even after numerous attempts the site looks fragmented big time. I have spent sometime trying to get the older site up again to no avail.
I have some back ups that I may try but if they do work it will me
Some info from about a year before it went down will be lost which is a years work, but worth a try maybe.
The website and the TVR Griffith are close to
Me heart and believe me it infuriates me what some idjeet has done and frustrates me that between all us there is no techie with the knowledge/power to get the site up
Again.

Happy Griff'in

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Hi Simon, I thought it odd you didn't reply but I never received anything from you.

Never mind YHAM. smile


FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Hows the pipe and slipper brigade BB - guess you'd fit in well.
FFG

TimJM

1,497 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Ballistic Banana said:
The website and the TVR Griffith are close to
Me heart and believe me it infuriates me what some idjeet has done and frustrates me that between all us there is no techie with the knowledge/power to get the site up
Again.
Happy Griff'in
I think the problem may be down to using a CMS system like joomla. Plenty of people have tech knowledge but not so many people with knowledge of certain cms systems.

If you have all the original pages why don't you just create a new site?

I had a quick look at the site and the main problem (apart from the missing text) is the number of missing images. You have two problems here it seems, on pages such as the 1990 Press Pack page the images looked like they have been some sort of active link via an mosimage code but these are now lost. The second problem I found when looking at some cached pages on the old site is the images used to be hosted on other sites that are now no longer available. For example, the roll bar installation article links to the following image:
http://www.ballisticbanana.co.uk/ROLL%20BAR%20INST...

However, www.ballisticbanana.co.uk no longer exists.

Unless you can find a joomla specialist and all the content is actually in your joomla site (rather than linking to sites no longer available) then your best bet if you still have all the original content backed-up would be to ask somebody to help you create a new site.

Umbraco is quite good if you want to stick with a CMS system as it is easily extensible via ASP.NET but generally most people will just tend to create their own sites, that's what we normally do.

Tim.

virgil

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Speaking to a couple of my techies here, they confirmed the same thing. Most people who are willing to help aren't going to be skilled in Joomla.

I'd happily help re-create a std web site - could dish out a segement/topic between a few people to share the burdon??


TimJM

1,497 posts

234 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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virgil said:
Speaking to a couple of my techies here, they confirmed the same thing. Most people who are willing to help aren't going to be skilled in Joomla.

I'd happily help re-create a std web site - could dish out a segement/topic between a few people to share the burdon??
The easiest way may be to just convert the existing stuff in an automated approach and then allow a selected few individuals to tidy up the result. That was you get all the content back online quickly and over time it becomes more presentable. As I said, it is the images that are the main issue. For example, if you look at the High level 3rd brake light modification article the images are missing:

thegriffithpages.com said:
Next came the search for a suitable brake light unit… after looking around local car accessory shops and trawling the internet I decided on a Hella Thinlite (HEL106-227) LED light unit, which has 10 bright LEDs, is fairly thin (around 1cm), reasonable width and height (around 28cm wide x 3 cm high), and available in a smoked effect finish, which I thought would go well with the starmist grey of my exterior paint, and grey leather interior: Grey, grey, and more grey :-)


Hella Thinlite LED Unit

The Hella unit has adhesive backing, but thinking about how hot it can get in the summer inside the car I figured best to screw it to the fibreglass frame to make it secure… and here the fun started!
The text/word content could be put back but unless the images are available we would still be losing a lot of information.

Tim.

Ballistic Banana

14,704 posts

291 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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I got that one back up quite easily as had the text in a word document and all the images are all still there.
Everything picture wise is still there it just needs re adding and tidying up from when i migrated it over.
Just need to spend some time( which i am struggling to find a lot of at the moment) looking over each page and re adding the pictures and tidying the text up.
Someone has contacted me who maybe able to help and i will speak with him more once he is back of his hols and the Le Mans season is out of the way.

BB