80MPH speed limit
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SILICONEKID340HP

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14,997 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Im wondering if the speed limit may be increased to create millions more from TAX and VAT ..

Is it true fuel consumption drops at least 20% from 70 at 80mph.

Cyder

7,185 posts

247 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Im wondering if the speed limit may be increased to create millions more from TAX and VAT ..

Is it true fuel consumption drops at least 20% from 70 at 80mph.
Why don't you try it and report back on your findings?

SILICONEKID340HP

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Cyder said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
Im wondering if the speed limit may be increased to create millions more from TAX and VAT ..

Is it true fuel consumption drops at least 20% from 70 at 80mph.
Why don't you try it and report back on your findings?
Can`t yet ! why don`t you try..

But i do have a point ,that will create millions more !

Monty Python

4,813 posts

224 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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No - it depends on the car in question (at least mine doesn't).

As for the extra tax, that's entirely dependant on the driver - just because the speed limit is 80 doesn't mean you have to drive at 80 - it's quite legal to do 70 or even less :-)

Corsair7

20,911 posts

274 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Without doubt increasing average speed at these levels increases fuel consumption. No tests needed. So therefore more fuel will be used, therefore more tax will be raised.

Its interesting that the government is finally considering this move when average speeds are clearly fallig, as people tighten spending and attempt to save fuel by moderating speed. I know my average speed on my commute has definatly fallen.

mudster

792 posts

271 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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The Road Safety Foundation last week published a report titled "Unfit for 80" which claims the network will not safely support an 80mph limit. Not sure quite how influential this will be in the decision process of increasing the limit, but it will likely cast at least some doubt.

http://www.roadsafetyfoundation.org/media/27476/un...

TallbutBuxomly

12,254 posts

243 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Monty Python said:
No - it depends on the car in question (at least mine doesn't).

As for the extra tax, that's entirely dependant on the driver - just because the speed limit is 80 doesn't mean you have to drive at 80 - it's quite legal to do 70 or even less :-)
Likewise. In fact if I am not mistaken on a run the other day I got even better economy than normal cruising at a much higher than legal limit.

dcb

6,052 posts

292 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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mudster said:
The Road Safety Foundation last week published a report titled "Unfit for 80" which claims the network will not safely support an 80mph limit. Not sure quite how influential this will be in the decision process of increasing the limit, but it will likely cast at least some doubt.

http://www.roadsafetyfoundation.org/media/27476/un...
They need a reality check. Have these folks never driven on a UK
motorway recently ? It's patently obvious there are plenty of folks
doing over 80 mph on a regular basis.

There are regional variations. 80 mph makes you the fastest driver
in the whole of Scotland, but in M25 land, you'll be lane 1 fodder.

UK Gov's own numbers suggest some 20% of all cars exceed 80 mph
in practice anyway, so this is more about legalising current practice
than new freedoms.

Indeed, the Association of Chief Police Officers, not normally a
group given to wild and hysterical statements, have it that they
usually don't prosecute for up 10% + 2mph over the limit. So that's
90 mph in practice, or about 95 mph on the dial, before they
start to prosecute.

Bring it on, I've got some time to save.


smiffy180

6,029 posts

177 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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i heard on the radio a couple days ago that they are not planning on going ahead with the 80mph speed limit? unless they've changed minds or someone knows different????

Cyder

7,185 posts

247 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Cyder said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
Im wondering if the speed limit may be increased to create millions more from TAX and VAT ..

Is it true fuel consumption drops at least 20% from 70 at 80mph.
Why don't you try it and report back on your findings?
Can`t yet ! why don`t you try..

But i do have a point ,that will create millions more !
I can't afford the extra fuel!

SILICONEKID340HP

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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All im trying to say is this 80mph limit may of been made up to create more revenue.

They do have think tanks !

lxtwin

25 posts

245 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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And even if it did cost 1 billion as least we are spending it in the UK instead of giving it to Europe.

98elise

32,100 posts

188 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Monty Python said:
No - it depends on the car in question (at least mine doesn't).

As for the extra tax, that's entirely dependant on the driver - just because the speed limit is 80 doesn't mean you have to drive at 80 - it's quite legal to do 70 or even less :-)
This.

All thats happening is that the limit is being raised. You are not being made to drive at the new limit. People generally drive at a speed they feel comfortable at given the conditions at the time.

All thats happening is that a number of people who currenty fall foul of the law, will be able to continue legally.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,948 posts

262 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I reckon:

Lane 1: speed limit 60 mph & free of charge
Lane 2: speed limit 70 mph & free of charge, minimum speed 60 mph
Lane 3: speed limit 100 mph but 10p per mile toll. Only cars over 4800cc allowed in, no diesels

And all caravans only allowed to travel between 02.00 & 06.00

thumbup sorted

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,948 posts

262 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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..and lanes 4 & up where available as above, but blue cars only

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I reckon:

Lane 1: speed limit 60 mph & free of charge
Lane 2: speed limit 70 mph & free of charge, minimum speed 60 mph
Lane 3: speed limit 100 mph but 10p per mile toll. Only cars over 4800cc allowed in, no diesels

And all caravans only allowed to travel between 02.00 & 06.00

thumbup sorted
Bugger! 4799 cc frown

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,948 posts

262 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Major Fallout said:
Bugger! 4799 cc frown
I'll wave as I pass you! wavey

Sam.F

1,145 posts

227 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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dcb said:
80 mph makes you the fastest driver
in the whole of Scotland
Really?

I find on the A74(M) if you do 80 you barely get out of lane 1, a lot of the traffic on there is doing well north of 90!

Backtobasics

1,182 posts

210 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
All im trying to say is this 80mph limit may of been made up to create more revenue.

They do have think tanks !
Agreed. Revenue has reduced significantly due to more economical cars/reduction on miles. The government commissioned a report recently which the AA commented on around this topic. Cant find it at the minute.

I think most people will cruise between 70-80 leptons regardless of the limit being 70-80.

SILICONEKID340HP

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14,997 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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The only cars allowed on the the road should be TVR`s and petrol should only be 20p a litre laugh