Out goes the ASBO
Discussion
EDLT said:
No.
+1ASBOs didn't. CBOs won't.
We already had laws that would cover what these things try to do. If they're not working, work out why...but I would hazard a big guess that it's down to their being no means of disincentive for people acting like scrotes that the scrotes are actually concerned about. We've become way too soft, and dressing it up with names that get used as badges of honour will do nothing.
Defcon5 said:
Really? I used to be heavily involved in ASB/similar orders and have the total opposite viewpoint.
Has the total number of scrotes and scrote related events fallen since they were introduced?If they have, and if ASBOs (rather than the law at large) have been the cause then I'll change my view.
BlackVanDyke said:
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If it comes with a funding boost from central government to cover the transitional costs, that'll be something of a different story.
But it won't, will it?
How can it? Same pot of money that is being called on to fund everything else would be called upon to fund this. There's no magic government money tree, which seems to be what our populous cannot grasp.If it comes with a funding boost from central government to cover the transitional costs, that'll be something of a different story.
But it won't, will it?
Murph7355 said:
BlackVanDyke said:
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If it comes with a funding boost from central government to cover the transitional costs, that'll be something of a different story.
But it won't, will it?
How can it? Same pot of money that is being called on to fund everything else would be called upon to fund this. There's no magic government money tree, which seems to be what our populous cannot grasp.If it comes with a funding boost from central government to cover the transitional costs, that'll be something of a different story.
But it won't, will it?
I fully understand that we don't have an unlimited amount of money.
The decisions are about how much to spend on what, and whether to introduce expensive new initiatives like this that seem unlikely to have any significant benefit over what they're replacing.
Totally useless sound bite piece of legislation. The Asbo meant was to control the young delinquent. As usual no backbone was applied to it, it took an age to get one. It never protected the people that it was meant to. Easiest solution would be to shoot one twot per week and display the body on a lamp post.
The "Community Trigger" aspect strikes me as something that will be totally abused? If the police have to act after three complaints from the same person, there's massive scope for a neighbour with a grudge to be a total pain in the arse with this. One hopes there's a degree of consideration given to vexatious claims, otherwise every nosey parker out there is going to be raising complaints left right and centre.
Somebody told me about this, this morning, thought it was typical Scouse humor, obviously some tit in the civil service thinks it wont become a joke 
colonel c said:
Will it change anything?
Only if they enforce the breaches. The ASBO is meant to be someones final chance before prison, presumably. But if you give people a second chance (as they've done), it becomes meaningless.A breach of an ASBO or CRIMBO should be an immediate incarceration and the original charges put through.
But...of course this is the UK we're talking about where a prolific burglar always gets the 97th chance to reform before we jail them and give society a break.
ks, bring back forced labour for the second offence.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff