Pre 1960 MoT exemption - good or bad (poll)
Poll: Pre 1960 MoT exemption - good or bad (poll)
Total Members Polled: 201
Discussion
I could see an argument for reducing the period between tests for older cars if for example they were only doing 1000miles/year maybe a two yearly test, but the thought of restoration projects which were put on hold because the owners could not get them to MOT standards suddenly being on the road concerns me.
Corpulent Tosser said:
but the thought of restoration projects which were put on hold because the owners could not get them to MOT standards suddenly being on the road concerns me.
And how many pre 1960 restoration projects are being put on hold because the owner can't get them to MOT standard. Most are on hold whilst the owner finds the elusive original double flange widget thingumy to complete the project to their OCD levels of satisfaction.crocodile tears said:
I was unaware.. I thought it was more down to the mot guys using common sense
a bit like the requirement due to the new rules with airbags and cars stripped out
It's not quite that daft, cars are explicitly exempt from tests that cover things that were not a legal requirement at the time of manufacture. a bit like the requirement due to the new rules with airbags and cars stripped out
kambites said:
I'm intrigued to know whether the majority on here are for or against this. Assume no other changes from the current system, would it be a good or bad thing overall for pre 1960 cars to be exempt from the MoT test requirement.
Are you going to ask how many people have ever actually either driven/ridden a pre-1960 vehicle, or ever had any experience of trying to use one regularly and know how much work it involves?I think that it's pretty relevant as anyone that has tried, knows you can't "just pump the tyres up and drive", as someone reckoned on the other thread.

kambites said:
crocodile tears said:
I was unaware.. I thought it was more down to the mot guys using common sense
a bit like the requirement due to the new rules with airbags and cars stripped out
It's not quite that daft, cars are explicitly exempt from tests that cover things that were not a legal requirement at the time of manufacture. a bit like the requirement due to the new rules with airbags and cars stripped out
I don't think it should fail.. and I believe theres an exception for 'racing cars' as it where but where do you draw the line?
srob said:
kambites said:
No I'm not, because that wasn't the point of the poll.
No, but it would prove whether people were speaking from experience of the subject, wouldn't it?All that scaremongering about restrictions was put about when the free tax introduced.....
....this brings us into line with the rest of the EU nothing else
If you don't have a pre-60 vehicle please leave this matter to those that do - in those circles (particularly with the much earlier machines as I have) this is a positive step
....this brings us into line with the rest of the EU nothing else
If you don't have a pre-60 vehicle please leave this matter to those that do - in those circles (particularly with the much earlier machines as I have) this is a positive step
Excelsior said:
All that scaremongering about restrictions was put about when the free tax introduced.....
....this brings us into line with the rest of the EU nothing else
If you don't have a pre-60 vehicle please leave this matter to those that do - in those circles (particularly with the much earlier machines as I have) this is a positive step
No I don't think I will thanks, you don't have exclusive rights because you own something that I have every right and ability to own.....this brings us into line with the rest of the EU nothing else
If you don't have a pre-60 vehicle please leave this matter to those that do - in those circles (particularly with the much earlier machines as I have) this is a positive step
How much do you know about it anyway? Did you know there were 3 seperate optitions?
Option 1
Exempt all pre-1960 manufactured vehicles from the statutory MoT test as allowed under Article 4(2) of the EU Directive 2009/40/EC. The inclusion of all categories of vehicles will make the MoT test requirement match the unladen pre-1960 manufactured HGVs, which are already exempted from the roadworthiness test under The Goods Vehicles (Plating and Testing) Regulations 1988.
Option 2
Exempt all pre-1945 manufactured vehicles from the statutory MoT test as allowed under Article 4(2) of the EU Directive 2009/40/EC. Under this option, vehicles manufactured between 1945 and 1959 will still be subject to statutory MoT test.
Option 3
Exempt all pre-1920 manufactured vehicles from the MoT test as allowed under Article 4(2) of the EU Directive 2009/40/EC. Under this option, Vehicles manufactured between 1920 and 1959 will still be subject to statutory MoT test.
Options 2 & 3 I do agree with.
By the sounds of your 'much' earlier machine I have as much right to discuss this matter for my particular interest in 50's vehicles as you do.
Edited by benjfrst on Wednesday 23 May 16:39
Edited by benjfrst on Wednesday 23 May 16:41
The problem is some parts of the EU do have restrictions on old cars. I also voted no for the free road tax.
If we don't pay road tax and we don't have an MOT, we don't really get a vote. It would be ever so easy to say that group of car is banned from city centres and only to be used at weekends.
Its not difficult to get a pre 1960 through an MOT.
By the way I own 4 pre 1920 cars and work on a lot of others, so I should have my chance to speak my mind.
If we don't pay road tax and we don't have an MOT, we don't really get a vote. It would be ever so easy to say that group of car is banned from city centres and only to be used at weekends.
Its not difficult to get a pre 1960 through an MOT.
By the way I own 4 pre 1920 cars and work on a lot of others, so I should have my chance to speak my mind.
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thought it was more to do with testers using common sense
