Modern classics disappearing!
Modern classics disappearing!
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TVaRt

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365 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Is it just me or is it a shame that so many of the great ground breaking cars that have defined our interest (petrol heads) are disappearing fast (or practically gone!?) and are being replaced by soulless efficient shopping car/enthusiast car wannabies? My latest car is a Clio 172 cup and I think it may really be one of the last real hot hatches... What do you lot think... New cars soulless?

VR46

289 posts

170 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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A clio a modern classic?! Dont make me laugh.

rumple

14,541 posts

178 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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VR46 said:
A clio a modern classic?! Dont make me laugh.
It will be

VR46

289 posts

170 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Clio v6 or williams maybe, just maybe but none of the other french unreliable tacky stboxes.

TVaRt

Original Poster:

365 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Even lotus are getting porky these days! What happened to lightweight simplicity?

TVaRt

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365 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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VR46 said:
Clio v6 or williams maybe, just maybe but none of the other french unreliable tacky stboxes.
V6 was a useless example of marketing and Williams is too old... I'm talking last 10 years max (age of car most people own). I've owned most of the GREAT cars and I struggle to want anything 'new'

Bisonhead

1,598 posts

216 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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It got middle age spread, it has been around since the 80s!

TankRS

2,850 posts

181 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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i still mourn the cars that fell victim to the scrappage scheme frown

i used to see some real classics/beauties piled up in a scrappy that’s on my daily commute, often ranged from Sierra Cosworths/various other RS fords/205 GTI’s/Original Minis/Civics/Pulsars among many (quite possible many were replicas, but i imagine a few were realdeal), all sat there on the lifts bleeding their souls out only to shortly find themselves in the crusher

TVaRt

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365 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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True! If I had the money now I would buy a mint 1995 serpentine griffith 500 and keep it forever. Then just blast it around infront of open mouthed kids in 30 years time when electric soulless cars are the norm!

Ferg

15,242 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TVaRt said:
Even lotus are getting porky these days! What happened to lightweight simplicity?
It's parked in my garage at the moment.

jbi

12,698 posts

231 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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electronic components and circuit boards have introduced a shelf life to all modern cars.

Too expensive/complicated to repair and no relief from the tax man make it much harder to run a modern car for years on end.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

223 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TVaRt said:
V6 was a useless example of marketing and Williams is too old... I'm talking last 10 years max (age of car most people own). I've owned most of the GREAT cars and I struggle to want anything 'new'
confused how can a car be to old to be a classic?

Part of the appeal of classics is they are rare. Why are they rare? Because they all go through a period of being out of date st boxes.



swifthobo

869 posts

197 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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They have to be saved and loved

ambuletz

11,695 posts

208 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Lack of merc 190's, mazda MX-6's disappoints me.

TVaRt

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365 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
confused how can a car be to old to be a classic?

Part of the appeal of classics is they are rare. Why are they rare? Because they all go through a period of being out of date st boxes.
For me there is the perfect balance between performance and purity... Some much older cars are just too... Old. Not enough performance. But I don't want perfor,ance at the loss of purity and mechanical control!

bungle

1,874 posts

267 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TankRS said:
i still mourn the cars that fell victim to the scrappage scheme frown
Agree. Such a waste.

RWD cossie wil

4,382 posts

200 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Cars that stuck always had Motorsport pedigree, what won on Sunday sold on Monday.. Most of the group A rally cars were available in road going form, hence were accessible to the man on the street.

You could watch an Integrale or Cosworth batter through the welsh special stages, then go and buy one that was a direct descendant of its motorsport version.

BTCC was utterly fantastic in the 80's & 90's, the Clelland/Harvey/Rouse generation saw pretty much the best saloon car racing ever, with every mainstream manufacturer providing a factory team.

Hot hatches were developed & sold off the back of racing teams success, & IMHO the Clio Williams will always be a far more special car than a 172 etc purely down to it actually meant somthing to Renualt when it was built, not just another car to plump the sales figures.

Sadly huge taxation & criminalisation of the average motorist means that interesting cars sell far fewer units now, hence don't get special production runs etc.

I might be getting old at 31 frown , but the golden age of motoring has gone IMHO frown