Modern classics disappearing!
Discussion
Is it just me or is it a shame that so many of the great ground breaking cars that have defined our interest (petrol heads) are disappearing fast (or practically gone!?) and are being replaced by soulless efficient shopping car/enthusiast car wannabies? My latest car is a Clio 172 cup and I think it may really be one of the last real hot hatches... What do you lot think... New cars soulless?
VR46 said:
Clio v6 or williams maybe, just maybe but none of the other french unreliable tacky s
tboxes.
V6 was a useless example of marketing and Williams is too old... I'm talking last 10 years max (age of car most people own). I've owned most of the GREAT cars and I struggle to want anything 'new'
tboxes.i still mourn the cars that fell victim to the scrappage scheme 
i used to see some real classics/beauties piled up in a scrappy that’s on my daily commute, often ranged from Sierra Cosworths/various other RS fords/205 GTI’s/Original Minis/Civics/Pulsars among many (quite possible many were replicas, but i imagine a few were realdeal), all sat there on the lifts bleeding their souls out only to shortly find themselves in the crusher

i used to see some real classics/beauties piled up in a scrappy that’s on my daily commute, often ranged from Sierra Cosworths/various other RS fords/205 GTI’s/Original Minis/Civics/Pulsars among many (quite possible many were replicas, but i imagine a few were realdeal), all sat there on the lifts bleeding their souls out only to shortly find themselves in the crusher
TVaRt said:
V6 was a useless example of marketing and Williams is too old... I'm talking last 10 years max (age of car most people own). I've owned most of the GREAT cars and I struggle to want anything 'new'
how can a car be to old to be a classic?Part of the appeal of classics is they are rare. Why are they rare? Because they all go through a period of being out of date s
t boxes.LaurasOtherHalf said:
how can a car be to old to be a classic?Part of the appeal of classics is they are rare. Why are they rare? Because they all go through a period of being out of date s
t boxes.Cars that stuck always had Motorsport pedigree, what won on Sunday sold on Monday.. Most of the group A rally cars were available in road going form, hence were accessible to the man on the street.
You could watch an Integrale or Cosworth batter through the welsh special stages, then go and buy one that was a direct descendant of its motorsport version.
BTCC was utterly fantastic in the 80's & 90's, the Clelland/Harvey/Rouse generation saw pretty much the best saloon car racing ever, with every mainstream manufacturer providing a factory team.
Hot hatches were developed & sold off the back of racing teams success, & IMHO the Clio Williams will always be a far more special car than a 172 etc purely down to it actually meant somthing to Renualt when it was built, not just another car to plump the sales figures.
Sadly huge taxation & criminalisation of the average motorist means that interesting cars sell far fewer units now, hence don't get special production runs etc.
I might be getting old at 31
, but the golden age of motoring has gone IMHO 
You could watch an Integrale or Cosworth batter through the welsh special stages, then go and buy one that was a direct descendant of its motorsport version.
BTCC was utterly fantastic in the 80's & 90's, the Clelland/Harvey/Rouse generation saw pretty much the best saloon car racing ever, with every mainstream manufacturer providing a factory team.
Hot hatches were developed & sold off the back of racing teams success, & IMHO the Clio Williams will always be a far more special car than a 172 etc purely down to it actually meant somthing to Renualt when it was built, not just another car to plump the sales figures.
Sadly huge taxation & criminalisation of the average motorist means that interesting cars sell far fewer units now, hence don't get special production runs etc.
I might be getting old at 31
, but the golden age of motoring has gone IMHO 
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