Can A M400 be Developed To Compete With A M600
Can A M400 be Developed To Compete With A M600
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Juno

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4,485 posts

278 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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After seeing Jason Plato took the M600 around the Silverstobe GP Arena circuit in 2.22 can the M400 be developed to match or beat the M600?

Which is the better chassis, the new or the old?

I reckon Shaun was about 2.30 so can 8 seconds be found, I guess 2 seconds will be the driver (Jason Plato) so it will require about another 6 to be found in tbe car?

Shaun did an excellent job, anyone up for chasing the new style Nobility?

Edited by Juno on Wednesday 30th May 02:35

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Pedalled well with the right set up it shouldn't be too dificult.
The problem lies with the definition of set-up.
The old car is lighter and I think would be the quicker at a tight track like Anglesey, the problem would be gearing and aero IMO.
So if you could get the correct gearing to keep pace with the legs of the M600 and ditch the parachute like aero at speed, then you should stand a good chance at a high speed circuit.

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I think the answer is yes!

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Hi Barry , Shaun's best lap would be something like 2.27/8 easy as my best is 2.31 and he is much quicker than me !!
We already have cars that can compete on pace and to be honest most of the 600bhp cars can give the M600 a good scare !!! As regards build quality road presence ect ..... No not a cat in hells chance biggrin
Tux

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I think that Dave B couldn't pedal the M600 around Silverstone any quicker than he could my car. The M600 is more controlled and refined therefore less dramatic and has more of a road focus, he has taken me around Silverstone in the Light Blue one and it didn’t seem any faster, just easier to drive.

And the M600 is less likely to break!

Juno

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4,485 posts

278 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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TuxMan said:
Hi Barry , Shaun's best lap would be something like 2.27/8 easy as my best is 2.31 and he is much quicker than me !!
We already have cars that can compete on pace and to be honest most of the 600bhp cars can give the M600 a good scare !!! As regards build quality road presence ect ..... No not a cat in hells chance biggrin
Tux
Would be good to see one of you boys after all your hard work get close to Mr Platos M600 time, got to give tbe M400 2 seconds back just because the600 was on the hands oft Plato.

It's a good target to go for, better than going for me I think wink

Before long I'll have Waffe and Noble all I've me rofl

Shaun found that other video, it's the exact opposite of the one I posted where I flowed him wink
Out of tbe pitts! wink

Edited by Juno on Wednesday 30th May 08:02

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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As I mention in another post. Kev was all over the carbon M600 at silverstone las time I went and when in Andys car he gave it a bit of a shock to when it tried to over take. Lol

Adrian W

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257 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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mgbond said:
As I mention in another post. Kev was all over the carbon M600 at silverstone las time I went and when in Andys car he gave it a bit of a shock to when it tried to over take. Lol
But that wasn't Dave driving it

Chapppers

4,483 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Peter Boutwood was driving the black car, Dave was in the Blue. Peter wasn't as smooth with the car or as quick.

mgbond

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261 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Chapppers said:
Peter Boutwood was driving the black car, Dave was in the Blue. Peter wasn't as smooth with the car or as quick.
Ah ok, but thought both knew how to drive?

snuffy

13,201 posts

313 months

Chapppers

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220 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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mgbond said:
Chapppers said:
Peter Boutwood was driving the black car, Dave was in the Blue. Peter wasn't as smooth with the car or as quick.
Ah ok, but thought both knew how to drive?
Oh yeah, he wasn't slow, but he just wasn't as quick as Dave.

ludoZ3

126 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Juno said:
Would be good to see one of you boys after all your hard work get close to Mr Platos M600 time, got to give tbe M400 2 seconds back just because the600 was on the hands oft Plato.

It's a good target to go for, better than going for me I think wink

Before long I'll have Waffe and Noble all I've me rofl

Shaun found that other video, it's the exact opposite of the one I posted where I flowed him wink
Out of tbe pitts! wink

Edited by Juno on Wednesday 30th May 08:02
I'd venture to say that a pro driver to whom you give the green light to go for it will best almost anyone time here by more than 2s...
And to answer your question, any car can be developped to be faster than any other car, depends where you set the limits both technically and financially.

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Adrian W said:
mgbond said:
As I mention in another post. Kev was all over the carbon M600 at silverstone las time I went and when in Andys car he gave it a bit of a shock to when it tried to over take. Lol
But that wasn't Dave driving it
Adrian, sure it was you in with Dave when l passed thumbup

jetstream

106 posts

221 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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GTO600 said:
Adrian W said:
mgbond said:
As I mention in another post. Kev was all over the carbon M600 at silverstone las time I went and when in Andys car he gave it a bit of a shock to when it tried to over take. Lol
But that wasn't Dave driving it
Adrian, sure it was you in with Dave when l passed thumbup
On the Brakes into a bend tut tut!

Dont forget my cars got Gps data logging and I can show you things like how much I backed off when you went up the middle while I waited as per etiquette of the day.
its nothing to do with poor positioning it's called waiting/ rules and saftey for you your car and others,there is no excuse for overtaking into a bend, its just poor driving.
laugh

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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jetstream said:
GTO600 said:
Adrian W said:
mgbond said:
As I mention in another post. Kev was all over the carbon M600 at silverstone las time I went and when in Andys car he gave it a bit of a shock to when it tried to over take. Lol
But that wasn't Dave driving it
Adrian, sure it was you in with Dave when l passed thumbup
On the Brakes into a bend tut tut!

Dont forget my cars got Gps data logging and I can show you things like how much I backed off when you went up the middle while I waited as per etiquette of the day.
its nothing to do with poor positioning it's called waiting/ rules and saftey for you your car and others,there is no excuse for overtaking into a bend, its just poor driving.
laugh
Dave, excuses excuses, such etiguette that's why we were both sliding side by side through club! biggrin

R0162

2,435 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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600 bhp+ Twin drifting Nobles...anybody got video of that smile?

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Mental note to self 'Don't let Dave drive my car'
:-)

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Mental note to self 'Don't let Dave drive my car'
:-)