Cayman Battery Dead/Flat
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Last night i dicovered that the battery on my Cayman S was dead/flat as the car would not turn over... completely understandable seeing as its used infrequently. I was not surprised at all as i was expecting it sooner or later having read all the stories about how poor the porsche approved batteries are.
so why am i posting.. not really sure was just feeling a little lonely
I also once again wanted to express my disatisfaction with certain OPC service teams, the level of customer services varies drastically dependant on OPC which just makes a mockery of the whole porsche ownership.
Initially called east london... was told that i would need a diagnostic check costing £160 and then depndant on test would need a battery at cost of £300. However, they could not pick up the vehicle until mid june and stated they would need to keep over night for diagnostics. They also would be unable to provide a courtesy but were happy to book me in tomorrow if i could get the car to them... i stated it wouldnt start to which the great advice was jump start it
Got of the blower thinking my jubilee weekend will be ruined but then decided to call mid sussex (50 miles further than east london but have had good experience with them previously)... quoted me exact same price for replacement battery but no mention of diagnostics. Simply suggested i get RAC/AA to come out and do the diagnostics, based on thier recomendation they would happily suppy and fit the battery to ensure my OPC warranty is intact. Simples really.
Now a simple issue of a battery dying or going flat should be pretty standard affair but really does annoy me how some OPCs try it on
so why am i posting.. not really sure was just feeling a little lonely

I also once again wanted to express my disatisfaction with certain OPC service teams, the level of customer services varies drastically dependant on OPC which just makes a mockery of the whole porsche ownership.
Initially called east london... was told that i would need a diagnostic check costing £160 and then depndant on test would need a battery at cost of £300. However, they could not pick up the vehicle until mid june and stated they would need to keep over night for diagnostics. They also would be unable to provide a courtesy but were happy to book me in tomorrow if i could get the car to them... i stated it wouldnt start to which the great advice was jump start it
Got of the blower thinking my jubilee weekend will be ruined but then decided to call mid sussex (50 miles further than east london but have had good experience with them previously)... quoted me exact same price for replacement battery but no mention of diagnostics. Simply suggested i get RAC/AA to come out and do the diagnostics, based on thier recomendation they would happily suppy and fit the battery to ensure my OPC warranty is intact. Simples really.
Now a simple issue of a battery dying or going flat should be pretty standard affair but really does annoy me how some OPCs try it on
The £300 includes fitting :P
dont get me wrong the cost is outrageous but i was expecting as much... but more annoyed about the customer service aspect. If i am spending this kind of money i would expect some sympathy and some alternative options rather than the take it or lump it attitude
dont get me wrong the cost is outrageous but i was expecting as much... but more annoyed about the customer service aspect. If i am spending this kind of money i would expect some sympathy and some alternative options rather than the take it or lump it attitude
I use a CTEK 3600, which is also the make that Porsche rebrand as their own.
If your battery is dead and you cannot open the front lid to get the old battery out then you will need a 12v power source - another car and a set of jump leads will do the trick. There's a little red tab in the fuse box (driver's side footwell) that you pull out; attach the positive to this and the negative to the door latch, then pull up the bonnet release lever. (There's an instruction booklet on the back of the fuse box cover.)
If you have a garage, then you can just leave the bonnet open after you remove the battery. If not then you'll have to do the same to replace the battery.
One thing that can happen after you replace is that a PSM Failure warning may flash up. Just drive the car - it will disappear in a few minutes.
HTH
ETA - the driver's door will open and close with the key.
If your battery is dead and you cannot open the front lid to get the old battery out then you will need a 12v power source - another car and a set of jump leads will do the trick. There's a little red tab in the fuse box (driver's side footwell) that you pull out; attach the positive to this and the negative to the door latch, then pull up the bonnet release lever. (There's an instruction booklet on the back of the fuse box cover.)
If you have a garage, then you can just leave the bonnet open after you remove the battery. If not then you'll have to do the same to replace the battery.
One thing that can happen after you replace is that a PSM Failure warning may flash up. Just drive the car - it will disappear in a few minutes.
HTH
ETA - the driver's door will open and close with the key.
one final stupid question:
not really comfortable removing the battery and messing with the fuse box but i notice that with the ctek charger i can get an adaptor for the car lighter. If i get this can i just charge the battery via this method?
If so does the charger still have to be connected to the power supply, if so then i am up a creek once again due to street parking only
not really comfortable removing the battery and messing with the fuse box but i notice that with the ctek charger i can get an adaptor for the car lighter. If i get this can i just charge the battery via this method?
If so does the charger still have to be connected to the power supply, if so then i am up a creek once again due to street parking only
There's not really much messing about - Porsche have designed this feature specifically to allow for flat batteries. If it's completely flat then your bonnet release won't work.
On street parking makes using a mains powered charger very difficult - you'd have to use an extension lead from the house.
You can charge through the lighter socket, though I never do this, as I think removing the battery and charging it out of the vehicle is a better option.
If you're not confident doing this, then get a mobile mechanic to remove the battery one day and return it to you the next.
Or pay £300 for a battery (about £200 too much!)
On street parking makes using a mains powered charger very difficult - you'd have to use an extension lead from the house.
You can charge through the lighter socket, though I never do this, as I think removing the battery and charging it out of the vehicle is a better option.
If you're not confident doing this, then get a mobile mechanic to remove the battery one day and return it to you the next.
Or pay £300 for a battery (about £200 too much!)
Speaking from personal experience, this is what you need to do. It will cost you £50, the remaining £250.00 you can guve to me:
1) Go to Halfords, buy a £50 jump starter pack (its effectively a car battery which comes complete with pos / neg cables)
2) Connect the + lead to the little red pull out plug in the drivers footwell fusebox
3) Connect the - lead to the door hinge (not the door closing hook which it states in the manual - its a poor earth and won't work.)
4) Start the car! You then have access to the battery in the front boot.
Seriously, if you go to Porsche for this you have more money than sense and need to give your head a shake!
Regards
Aly
1) Go to Halfords, buy a £50 jump starter pack (its effectively a car battery which comes complete with pos / neg cables)
2) Connect the + lead to the little red pull out plug in the drivers footwell fusebox
3) Connect the - lead to the door hinge (not the door closing hook which it states in the manual - its a poor earth and won't work.)
4) Start the car! You then have access to the battery in the front boot.
Seriously, if you go to Porsche for this you have more money than sense and need to give your head a shake!
Regards
Aly
You could also buy a new battery yourself - £85 for the Bosch Silver with 5 year guarantee from Euro Car Parts (there's 15% off at the moment) and a CTEK or similar charger - many people swear by the LIDL version, which is £15 - 20.
Put this in the car and put your old battery on the trickle charger in the house. Then you'll always have a charged battery.
When you're going back to the OPC you just make sure the 'Porsche' battery is fitted.
Put this in the car and put your old battery on the trickle charger in the house. Then you'll always have a charged battery.
When you're going back to the OPC you just make sure the 'Porsche' battery is fitted.
+1 on using a battery conditioner also get yourself one of these cheap plug-in voltmeters - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGITAL-LED-12V-24V-CAR-... - to keep an eye on the battery voltage when your car is not being used.
Here's mine plugged into my CS...

Here's mine plugged into my CS...

pete.g said:
Buy a battery charger/conditioner - hook up your old battery and see if the lights turn green after a 24hr charge.
Then put the battery back in the car and use the conditioner to keep it topped up between uses.
Just because it's gone flat once doesn't mean it needs replaced.
Get yourself a ctek. No need to replace the battery! 300 pounds is insane Then put the battery back in the car and use the conditioner to keep it topped up between uses.
Just because it's gone flat once doesn't mean it needs replaced.
Klippie said:
+1 on using a battery conditioner also get yourself one of these cheap plug-in voltmeters - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGITAL-LED-12V-24V-CAR-... - to keep an eye on the battery voltage when your car is not being used.
Here's mine plugged into my CS...
Neat. Does the lid shut with it plugged in?Here's mine plugged into my CS...
OP - Doesn't Porsche Assistance come with your OPC warranty? I thought that they would come out and fit a new battery.
Once again thanks for the great advice, really am glad that i decided to share my frustrations as it could end up saving me a fare few quids 
i do have porsche assist but all they do is send out an RAC man so doubt he will have an approved battery, but not that concerned any more.
Will simply get the RAC man or whoever porsche send as part of the assist package to do afew checks on the battery (more importantly jump start me so i can go off on my merry way to enjoy the extended weekend) and depending on his findings will decide if a new battery is needed. Have the CTEK kit on order so hopefully should be at home tonight so i have all the tools to keep me running for a while regardless
While ordering the CTEK was looking at other batteries for comparison and cannot for the life of me understand how porsche justify the price... oh well

i do have porsche assist but all they do is send out an RAC man so doubt he will have an approved battery, but not that concerned any more.
Will simply get the RAC man or whoever porsche send as part of the assist package to do afew checks on the battery (more importantly jump start me so i can go off on my merry way to enjoy the extended weekend) and depending on his findings will decide if a new battery is needed. Have the CTEK kit on order so hopefully should be at home tonight so i have all the tools to keep me running for a while regardless
While ordering the CTEK was looking at other batteries for comparison and cannot for the life of me understand how porsche justify the price... oh well
just had the RAC man down via porsche assist... the battery has given up the ghost. Even with a CTEK charger the battery is no good which leaves me in a quandary as i now need a new battery
RAC dont sell porsche batteries but when i told the RAC man what porsche charge he thought i was pulling his leg.
RAC dont sell porsche batteries but when i told the RAC man what porsche charge he thought i was pulling his leg.
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