Golf GTI mk5, Golf R32 or Civic Type R?
Golf GTI mk5, Golf R32 or Civic Type R?
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MikeyMichaelton

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28 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Hello evryone

After saving up enough cash i'm ready 2 upgrade my car. I've narrowed my next car choice down to the GTI, R32 or CTR, I need it 2 seat at least 4 people but I would also like to use it on the odd track day (any different car suggestions welcome). Would just like to see your opinions on what u think is the best choice. Cheers

(My budget is about £11000)

Matt_N

8,973 posts

222 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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E46 M3

frosted

3,549 posts

197 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
R32, because the others are boring 4 pots.

HTH.
Leave it out, r32 got the laziest engine ever produced . It ain't nowhere as great as people make it out to be and it ain't really fast and it weighs a lot

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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I just got an R32 two weeks ago. Its a flawed car yes, but its a special car.

simoid

19,774 posts

178 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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frosted said:
Leave it out, r32 got the laziest engine ever produced . It ain't nowhere as great as people make it out to be and it ain't really fast and it weighs a lot
Comparison = Golf GTI or Civic Type R...

DanDC5

19,696 posts

187 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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If you can, spend another 1500quid and buy an Impreza STI hatch.

Riknos

4,701 posts

224 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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frosted said:
Leave it out, r32 got the laziest engine ever produced . It ain't nowhere as great as people make it out to be and it ain't really fast and it weighs a lot
Wow, you may speak like that in real life, but do you have to type like it? You sound like the bloke out of The Streets!

frosted

3,549 posts

197 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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simoid said:
Comparison = Golf GTI or Civic Type R...
A 300 quid map will make a GTi as fast more importantly will feel faster

Bitzer

4,542 posts

188 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Drive them and see for yourself smile


frosted

3,549 posts

197 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
Strike a light, stone the crows, it's my pick of the OP's shortlist for the reason I stated, Apples n pears, gor blimey Guvnor, lav a dack etc etc...

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V6 engines are lazy, thirsty, heavy and in this day not superior to a turbo 4 pot. No hot hatch should have a non turbo v6 IMO

Edition 30 GTi would be my pick

ArosaMike

4,572 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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GTI

+ve's

-Well balanced handling
-Decent Ride
-Sounds good for a 4 pot turbo (think quieter Megane R26R)
-Feels NA and has bags of torque from idle

-ve's

-Love or hate looks (unpainted bodykit can look on some colours)
-Not as sharp as a CTR to drive
-Percieved by some as boring and/or try hard
-Not as economical as you'd think

R32

+ve's

-Sound fantastic
-4WD traction
-Usually very well specced
-Feels more 'special' than GTI
-More of a tourer

-ve's

-Quite heavy and 'nose led' handling
-Thirsty
-Pretty heavy on fuel and tax
-More of a tourer

CTR

+ve's

-Great handling (current Gen less so than previous breadvan shape)
-One of the best gearboxes in a hot hatch
-Hilarious engine that sounds incredible on cam

-'ve

-Electric steering is incredibly wooly
-Can't do Touring as well as the Golfs
-Feels pretty much like a 1.4 Civic shopping car under 6,000rpm
-Hard to enjoy VTEC at legal speeds.

Legend83

10,403 posts

242 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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frosted said:
Leave it out, r32 got the laziest engine ever produced . It ain't nowhere as great as people make it out to be and it ain't really fast and it weighs a lot
I don't know what any of this means.

Bitzer

4,542 posts

188 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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ArosaMike said:
GTI

-ve's

-Not as economical as you'd think
At a steady 70 on my commute to work, high 30s is easy to hit. To see sub 30 you'd have to be ragging the life out of it.

It's more economical than I thought.

otolith

64,227 posts

224 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Depends what you want out of a hot hatch. If you want a practical alternative to a sports car, the Civic. If you want a cheaper alternative to a an executive saloon, the Golf. It won't be long before turbocharged four pots are all you can buy, so I'd have the car with the six cylinder engine or the naturally aspirated screamer and enjoy a bit of character while you still can.

You could just test drive all three and buy the one you like, though. That usually works for me.

Ranger 6

7,500 posts

269 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Change the R32 option for a 130i....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3889392.htm

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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I have had 3 of each and they are all rubbish.

DeepFriedLlama

Original Poster:

28 posts

163 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Thanks 4 the tips. Yeh ur right about test driving, i've only tested out a GTI so far and i felt it was a v similar to a normal golf which didnt make me fall in love with it. And yeh i'd love to have a v6 over a 4pot but ive been told it makes the golf heavy and not much quicker thn the GTI, Yeh ill have a go in the other 2 and see what i think.

(Sry, not a fan of the 1series Ranger 6)

ArosaMike

4,572 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Bitzer said:
At a steady 70 on my commute to work, high 30s is easy to hit. To see sub 30 you'd have to be ragging the life out of it.

It's more economical than I thought.
I really struggle to get more than low 30s out of mine on motorway journeys. I think my long term average is 26.9. Driving it in the same way, my old 1.8T Octavia vRS used to get high 30s to low 40s.....I do wonder how truethfull that actually was, but I was a little bit surprised how different the economy was between the two.

Perhaps I just need a lighter foot though :P

Jayho

2,388 posts

190 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Honda Integra Type R? DC5 could easily be had for that kind of monies. Haven't driven one, but if it handles anything like a DC2 Integra then you'll be onto a winner.


Gruber

6,313 posts

234 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Ranger 6 said:
Change the R32 option for a 130i....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3889392.htm
Good shout.

130i or Golf GTI for me. That's if you don't want an e46 M3!

I owned a Mk 5 R32 for a few months and found it a huge disappointment. Very nose heavy, very thirsy, expensive to insure and it kept going wrong. It sounded ace and looked the part, but ultimately it's an "all bark and no bite" sort of car. For similar entry and running costs you could have an e46 M3, which is exactly what I chopped mine in for.