Royal Yacht Britannia
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zetec

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5,180 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Seeing some footage of the Britannia on the BBC's coverage of the Thames Pageant has got me wondering. How would the RYB size up against some of todays modern super/hyper yachts?

grumpyscot

1,293 posts

221 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Not very well. It's not exactly modern luxury, it certainly was not fuel efficient, wasn't all that big, and cost a fortune in upkeep - probably because it needed an extensive crew compared with more modern ships.

Have seen modern "yachts" parked beside it at its berth in Edinburgh and seen some of these "runabout" modern yachts in Turkey. Britannia doesn't get a look in!

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

288 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Whilst being somewhat ignorant of the technical differences I have to say that if I was in the market for a luxury yacht I would be more inclined towards something in the style of Britannia than some of the modern ones.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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DieselGriff said:
Whilst being somewhat ignorant of the technical differences I have to say that if I was in the market for a luxury yacht I would be more inclined towards something in the style of Britannia than some of the modern ones.
They are from a different era. I would prefer to go old fashioned, but having seen inside some of these fancy bd yachts in Dubai, you can see why they would go for a modern one.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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As they say, money can't buy class.

Getragdogleg

10,184 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Money shouts, Wealth whispers.

FourWheelDrift

92,234 posts

313 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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At 126m it would today be equal 14th (with Paul Allen's Octopus) largest private motor yacht in the world.

And of course it came with it's own on-board battalion of Royal Marines. Beat that Abramovitch.



And it should have been brought down to London for the Jubilee.

zetec

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280 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
Beat that Abramovitch.
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Thats what I thought when I was watching earlier, the RYB is the ultimate yacht!

Would've been great to see it on the Thames, however from the commentary it wouldn't have been appropriate, HM The Queen was devastated when it was decommisioned. Its launch was used today though, to take the royal party from Cadogan Pier to the Spirit Of Chartwell.

FourWheelDrift

92,234 posts

313 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I like the look of her predecessor too, HMY Victoria & Albert III - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMY_Victoria_and_Albe...

HMDY Dannebrog is nice too, still used - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Dannebrog_%28A54...

The Egyptian El Horria is the one I would like to see, built in 1865 and still goes to sea. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Horria

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I wonder if the yachts posted would be seen as 'modern carbuncles' at the time?

Benjaminpalma

1,214 posts

211 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Britannia extremely spartan by today's standards. Would perform poorly in the charter market, if that provides any comparison.

FYI... http://www.jubileeyacht.org.uk/

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

288 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Whilst I know that as she stands she's no comparison to today's new launches, but even if instructing a new build I think I would go more for this style than the contemporaries, but in some ways I feel that way about cars. I seem to be a few years behind current designs, I think A will grow on me and I might like it in 20 years time. smile

FourWheelDrift

92,234 posts

313 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Convert HMS Ark Royal to a Royal Yacht, plenty of space for a battalion or 2 of Royal Marines for "goodwill visits" and William has somewhere to land his chopper.

Then who'll have the biggest yacht Abramovitch? biggrin

NathanJones

713 posts

242 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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And it should have been brought down to London for the Jubilee.

Yes, She adored the craft

Benjaminpalma

1,214 posts

211 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
Convert HMS Ark Royal to a Royal Yacht, plenty of space for a battalion or 2 of Royal Marines for "goodwill visits" and William has somewhere to land his chopper.

Then who'll have the biggest yacht Abramovitch? biggrin
(Superyacht) Project Azzam by Lürssen, at 180m, will be only 30m short of Ark Royal...

russ_a

4,721 posts

240 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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zetec said:
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Thats what I thought when I was watching earlier, the RYB is the ultimate yacht!

Would've been great to see it on the Thames, however from the commentary it wouldn't have been appropriate, HM The Queen was devastated when it was decommisioned. Its launch was used today though, to take the royal party from Cadogan Pier to the Spirit Of Chartwell.
Not devastated enough to pay for its upkeep herself smile

ninja-lewis

5,407 posts

219 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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NathanJones said:
And it should have been brought down to London for the Jubilee.

Yes, She adored the craft
Maybe not. Almost sank when they tried to move her to dry dock for maintenance!

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

224 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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When we were tied up alongside in Malta, on Leander, Britannia was also there so that we were stern to stern. It was rather nice sitting on the aftdeck having a mug of coffee while the Marines had band practice 5 yards away. At sundown we had to do the ensigns together to music, quite moving really.

We were invited onboard by the Admiral for drinkiepoos in the mess. On the tour around, the interior was very 1950's, a bit like visiting your Nan's house, all very summerhouse homely. Some of the objects on display were jawdropping though, one really caught my eye. Capt. Scott's teacaddy with a letter inside.

Dated was the word that sprang to mind about the bridge and engineroom. The helm was below decks and no forward viz, all commands came from telegraph. The engineroom was all copper pipes polished to the hilt but SO old.

As it was used for family holidays, there were fun little things that went on between them and the crew. One was a little wooden monkey with a long curly tail. Each morning the cheeky thing had moved around in the night. All the kids had to go hunting for him (most likely to blame was the D.of.E but no one ever said).

She was originally envisioned with a squarerig foremast, that soon changed. I grew-up looking at a picture of her each day at school as one of our oldboys, Sir Hugh Casson, had designed the interior.

Nice family yacht also used for work too. She deserved a more dignified retirement than to be stuck in a dock in Scotland(the yacht, not the Queen).

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Wasn't her design based on a cross-channel (passenger) ferry?

Don't think HMQ would be too impressed with a ro-ro today though smile

While the Britannia was probably past her trade-in date I do feel that a royal yacht brings benefits to this Country which are invisible to the bean counters. Certainly better value than an equivalent to Air Force One.


NDA

25,541 posts

254 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Fishtigua said:
When we were tied up alongside in Malta, on Leander, Britannia was also there so that we were stern to stern. It was rather nice sitting on the aftdeck having a mug of coffee while the Marines had band practice 5 yards away. At sundown we had to do the ensigns together to music, quite moving really.

We were invited onboard by the Admiral for drinkiepoos in the mess. On the tour around, the interior was very 1950's, a bit like visiting your Nan's house, all very summerhouse homely. Some of the objects on display were jawdropping though, one really caught my eye. Capt. Scott's teacaddy with a letter inside.

Dated was the word that sprang to mind about the bridge and engineroom. The helm was below decks and no forward viz, all commands came from telegraph. The engineroom was all copper pipes polished to the hilt but SO old.

As it was used for family holidays, there were fun little things that went on between them and the crew. One was a little wooden monkey with a long curly tail. Each morning the cheeky thing had moved around in the night. All the kids had to go hunting for him (most likely to blame was the D.of.E but no one ever said).

She was originally envisioned with a squarerig foremast, that soon changed. I grew-up looking at a picture of her each day at school as one of our oldboys, Sir Hugh Casson, had designed the interior.

Nice family yacht also used for work too. She deserved a more dignified retirement than to be stuck in a dock in Scotland(the yacht, not the Queen).
An enjoyable post. smile

Thanks