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lowdrag

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13,181 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Well, it's started. two Englishmens' holidays started with a bang yesterday south of Arnage when they were stopped for speeding. Both lost their licences on the spot and since they were caught at 146kph in a 90kph zone both cars seized. If they are their personal cars they will be auctioned for state funds.

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I wonder when people visiting France will realise that doing almost 150 in a 90 results in unhappy Police?

I'm no killjoy, but if you wouldn't do it at home why do it a short hop across the water? We all know they lie in wait and sadly the days of a fast blast to Le Mans seem to be behind us.

.....I tell you what though, I still thoroughly enjoy the drive down there even at a sedate pace smile

YRRunner

1,652 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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And that 146kph was probably downgraded from something higher (speaking from experience). 90mph in a 50mph zone is taking the pcensoreds a bit really, even on a long stretch of unfettered road, but losing your car is harsh. Oh well, they can't say they weren't warned. It's been getting tougher with each passing year.

Great Dane

2,897 posts

195 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Agree how would we feel if a large contingent of say French people cam over to Britain and were bombing up the motorways to Manchester doing 100 120mph... people would be outraged..

JamesHayward

655 posts

193 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I didn't think 306 diesel's could do 120mph? biggrin

Agreed though. Thankfully one of our tribe is towing a plastic pig so we will be cruising along pace d'escargot.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Garlick said:
I wonder when people visiting France will realise that doing almost 150 in a 90 results in unhappy Police?
I wonder if le plod will still be out in force the thurs after scratchchin

WhyTwo

1,159 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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OK so we all know Les BiB show very little, if any, tolerance to us Brits who do seem to disregard their speed limits and driving laws when we head to Le Mans. God know I've done it enough times in the 13 or 14 times I've been. So we shouldn't be surprised by this and should be prepared to accept the consequences of our actions.

I do agree that it's no longer like it used to be and people need to be careful or risk heavy fines or losing their licence and potentially their cars.

That said I don't think we should start shouting from the parapets of our ivory towers - have you never done 90mph in a national speed limit 60mph zone (which is roughly what this equates to)?

We know nothing of the circumstances - type of road, time of day, weather conditions, traffic etc. Based on the description could it have been the Mulsanne Straight? In which case would you say 90mph is that extreme as to warrant losing you car over?

Granted these are not UK laws and we need to be mindful and respectful of this, but this does seem to be a disproportionate punishment does it not?


davidd

6,713 posts

313 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Ouch, that is very harsh. Still the law is the law....

I wonder if I get get my car to bong if I go over the limit....

JordanVXR

137 posts

196 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Great Dane said:
Agree how would we feel if a large contingent of say French people cam over to Britain and were bombing up the motorways to Manchester doing 100 120mph... people would be outraged..
Living and commuting along the M20 this happens on a daily basis i'm afraid to report :-)

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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WhyTwo said:
That said I don't think we should start shouting from the parapets of our ivory towers - have you never done 90mph in a national speed limit 60mph zone (which is roughly what this equates to)?
Of course we have, but in France we know they lie in wait and still UK cars blast along the Autoroute and then wonder why they have been treated harshly.

If we knew the UK Police were out in force and had powers to seize cars (and auction them) and remove licences on the spot we'd probably be a lot more cautious. The French are looking out for us, why give them the opportunity to prosper?

lowdrag

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13,181 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I forgot to mention that since the law changed last year they will suffer a fixed penalty fine of 3,750 euros plus the loss of the car. A very expensive hoon! It does depend on the court, who might apply leniency, but that is getting rarer and rarer.

JordanVXR

137 posts

196 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Firstly I always take a good copy of my licence just in case as I remember in 2007 we got stopped and fined 750 euros for speeding which I would of accepted however we were genuinely overtaking a Tractor towing a trailer of hay.

I do however find it strange that people have this fascination of driving all the way to Le Mans as quickly as possible. Not being funny guys most cars going down there are capable of doing 150mph wow!!!

I prefer the slow scenic drive down the A roads and enjoy having the locals take pictures of the car. If however people really want to do this then drive over to Germany find yourself a de restricted autobahn and go nuts. However after doing 10 trips a year every year the novelty wears off and the first time you hit 170mph and someone pulls out in front of you it soon brings you back to reality.

We are all enthusiasts at the end of the day otherwise why do we go to Le Man every year and yet every year, the same stories appear about ludicrous fine etc etc.

Drive sensible, Enjoy the drive and save yourself some money to spend on additional beer!!

WhyTwo

1,159 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I do agree with you Garlick and as I said we need to be mindful and respectful of French law regardless of how fair or otherwise we think it is. And yes we would probably be a little less inclined to hoon around our green & pleasant land if we faced the same threat of our P&J being confiscated.

Perish the thought that these two Englishers are not part of the PH Massive getmecoat , and taking into account that ignorance is no defence, can you imagine their shock when they were told their cars were being impounded?! If they aren't Le Manners and were just passing through enroute to a nice family holiday, I bet their SWMBO's were less than pleased as well!


Jabbah

1,331 posts

183 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Any noise restrictions to be wary of?

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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WhyTwo said:
I do agree with you Garlick and as I said we need to be mindful and respectful of French law regardless of how fair or otherwise we think it is. And yes we would probably be a little less inclined to hoon around our green & pleasant land if we faced the same threat of our P&J being confiscated.
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Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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lowdrag said:
Well, it's started. two Englishmens' holidays started with a bang yesterday south of Arnage when they were stopped for speeding. Both lost their licences on the spot and since they were caught at 146kph in a 90kph zone both cars seized. If they are their personal cars they will be auctioned for state funds.
Decent cars or a couple of chav sheds...?

davidd

6,713 posts

313 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Roop said:
Decent cars or a couple of chav sheds...?
One mans chav shed is another mans decent car....



ali_kat

32,152 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Garlick said:
WhyTwo said:
I do agree with you Garlick and as I said we need to be mindful and respectful of French law regardless of how fair or otherwise we think it is. And yes we would probably be a little less inclined to hoon around our green & pleasant land if we faced the same threat of our P&J being confiscated.
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Careful, one of those 'Law Maker types' might think this is a good way to raise more money for the UK...

Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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davidd said:
One mans chav shed is another mans decent car....
True. I guess that - despite popular opinion - not all PHers are powerfully-built, goatee-adorned company directors. That said, having a grands worth of 10 year old souped up Corsa confiscated is a bit different to an F40 or something...

JordanVXR

137 posts

196 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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davidd said:
One mans chav shed is another mans decent car....
not to spam up a debate on this one but I totally agree! thumbup