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phlea

Original Poster:

256 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Has anybody tried this product?... www.laserveil.com/

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Snake Oil. IMHO.

Laser Detectors may provide some warning. A proper jammer is a different matter - but again...could be interpreted as an offence.

I have traditionally taken the view that good observation eliminates 99% of the threat of speed enforcement. Of late I have considered additional electronic assistance - but no doubt I won't get around to it prior to it being banned.

I have 3pts on my licence. But I saw the cops doing it and drove past 'em confident I was obeying the speed limit and couldn't be prosecuted. Oops. Two lanes doth not a dual carriageway make. 70 in a 60 and the North Wales Police. Nice.

So basically...why bother with nonsense that's unlikely to work. If I was on 9pts and facing a ban on totting up it might be worth spending some cash on extra help but otherwise why not just keep your eyes peeled...

XM5ER

5,094 posts

271 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Woo hoo! Invisibility in a can.

I have some snake oil for sale, it cures male pattern baldness.

cptsideways

13,829 posts

275 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Well in theory it is possible to reduce the range for example black tinted windows, do exactly that as do less reflective cars. Don't buy a silver car!!

So depending on what this stuff is it could possibly work. All it needs to be is something that absorbs light at around 904nm lots of stuff does this.

I have the necessary equipment a Prolaser to test the stuff if anyones knows a source of it.

phlea

Original Poster:

256 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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I may get some in which case i'll let you know...

blademan

493 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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phlea said:
Has anybody tried this product?... www.laserveil.com/

No but I asked a similar question last week.
See thread
Blademan

cptsideways

13,829 posts

275 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Don't forget simple suncream blocks light along certain wavelengths but not the 904nm of laserguns. At least I think suncreams only work in the lower ranges.

I'm going to test it!


This could be quite funny

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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XM5ER said:
Woo hoo! Invisibility in a can.

I have some snake oil for sale, it cures male pattern baldness.

So where can you buy this snake oil?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Road Vehicles Display of Registration Marks regs 2001?

A registration plate must not be treated in any other way which renders the characters of the registration mark less easily distinguishable to the eye or which would prevent or impair the making of a true photographic image of the plate through the medium of camera and film or any other device.

which could cost you 1000 notes, thank you.

DVD

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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However, if your numberplate "fell off" it would be 2x£30 and zero points.

[/DevilsAdvocate]

bryan35

1,906 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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silver car.
My car is silver, and I managed to get a speed reading of 7MPH from it while it was parked in a layby.
That was from a pro laser 2.

how's about that then?

sadako

7,080 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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If you find a method of reflecting only non visible light on the plate, without altering it. Technicaly you are not imparing it being seen or photographed. Shame this is very hard to do

Also perhaps spraying the car matt black would be an advantage. Your car does not look shiny but light will seem to fall into it, you can make hitchhiker's guide references and the bodywork will absorb laser very well. Could reduce range. If you have those small projection headlights this could further reduce range. However the numberplate is still a highty reflective target with its corner cube backing. To passively beat the laser on a numberplate would require some very precise glasswear and lots of refraction equations on the wavelength. I think this is a little beyond a meer sunblock

bryan35

1,906 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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by the way, there are specialist firms that can make film material that will block 905 nm and nothing else.

bryan35

1,906 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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another quick note before I vanish off for lunch.
If you have Xenon headlights and put them on full beam, you can't get a speed reading at all via a laser gun.
Even normal headlights make locking on a problem when on full beam.
Xenons flicker at high frequency, and are b****y bright.

fish

4,059 posts

305 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Who makes the film then for the number plates....

Tafia

2,658 posts

271 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Road Vehicles Display of Registration Marks regs 2001?

A registration plate must not be treated in any other way which renders the characters of the registration mark less easily distinguishable to the eye or which would prevent or impair the making of a true photographic image of the plate through the medium of camera and film or any other device.

which could cost you 1000 notes, thank you.

DVD



Is firing a laser at a plate, "taking a photographic image" of it or just bouncing light off a flat surface?

No picture, no problem under the above wording.

bryan35

1,906 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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think galvonometers, and specialist optics, then have a search about on the net for uk businesses.
It's not very cheap though.

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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I have a black, low slung car. It has Pop-up/down headlights and a non reflective plate fitted at a slight downward angle with the front fogs removed to eliminate reflection.
Id be extremely interested in seeing how well itd fare against any of the laser guns in current use, and im pretty confident the range at which its detectable is probably around the 200 foot mark.
Might get around to testing it one day.

cptsideways

13,829 posts

275 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2004
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At the drifting round at Silverstone I lent my Prolaser speed gun to the judges for a bit of fun. Several enrtrants had removed front number plates.


Black 200sx's with no number plate of which there were a few, we could not clock easily if at all.

wilkos

197 posts

261 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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I have to admit, I'm tempted to try it on my lights, and would test it on a spare plate to see if it's obviously visible.

I've done all the other obvious ones, like black car, small (though legal) front plate with slight downward angle etc.

I've been lasered twice recently (on clear open stretches of the M6 toll) at speeds where I expected to get done, and on both occasions they took a second reading, by which time I was near the legal limit. I don't know if this is down to not being able to get a reading on the first try or not, but anything I can do to reduce my laser signature is worth a try.

At the end of the day it's only £50.