Why do most drivers not realise that...
Why do most drivers not realise that...
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HonestIago

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1,719 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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...constant braking is both pointlessly inefficient and shows a complete lack of driving ability/awareness? I know this has probably been done to death but it always gets on my nerves!

I notice it more and more that following people driving on the country roads where I live that the huge majority of drivers will brake for virtually every corner they come to. I am not talking about people in fast cars who are wanting to "press on" but those in normal cars just wanting to travel from A to B.

In these hard times one would assume the average motorist would be more conscious of the fact that every time you touch the brake pedal you are effectively wasting fuel as well as wearing out pads/discs.

Contrary to what many may assume you do not have to drive at a snail's pace to avoid heavy or even moderate use of brakes. I can "make progress" nicely with only light use of brakes at junctions etc just by anticipation and not following other cars too closely. I'm sure I'm not the only one on PH who has noticed this but its an interesting point I think.

Cue cool story bro etc etc.

Ug_lee

2,224 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Maybe to do with an increase in automatics?

I find myself braking considerably more in the auto we have despite my best efforts to keep it to a minimum.

swiftpete

1,894 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Most people don't know or care anything about cars or driving and just use them to go from one place to another.

Thin White Duke

2,411 posts

180 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Ug_lee said:
Maybe to do with an increase in automatics?

I find myself braking considerably more in the auto we have despite my best efforts to keep it to a minimum.
I would agree with this.

sturobturbo

5,746 posts

166 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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swiftpete said:
Most people don't know or care anything about cars or driving and just use them to go from one place to another.
And I, this.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

208 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Thin White Duke said:
Ug_lee said:
Maybe to do with an increase in automatics?

I find myself braking considerably more in the auto we have despite my best efforts to keep it to a minimum.
I would agree with this.
I had this problem when I first started to drive an auto, I found I couldn't drive it comfortably to "standard"

A few hours training with my groups auto expert, learning how to actually use that auto box, and all was sorted.

There are of course many types of automatic, and they require different driving techniques, we have two, a tiptronic 5 series, and a centrifugral smart car, I imagine the hardest one's to drive would be those that just have PNDR.

sturobturbo

5,746 posts

166 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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As I am imminently changing to a slush box (end of this month) some advice on correct operation would be appreciated.

Thanks, stuart.

Hoygo

725 posts

181 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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I am totally aware of this,people braking not only on every corner when braking is totally unnecessary but even braking after every fking slight bump on the road,it makes my piss boil.

If you drive like this even at 20 mph,brakes will overheat and get fked just like after a trackday.


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Dave Hedgehog

15,574 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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the worst offense is people who "confidence dab" ie they touch the brake just before each bend and take of 1mph so that they know they are safe .....


wst

3,504 posts

181 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
the worst offense is people who "confidence dab" ie they touch the brake just before each bend and take of 1mph so that they know they are safe .....
And if you ask them about it they come up with some BS about weight transfer and slip angles.

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

239 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Nigel Worc's said:
Thin White Duke said:
Ug_lee said:
Maybe to do with an increase in automatics?

I find myself braking considerably more in the auto we have despite my best efforts to keep it to a minimum.
I would agree with this.
I had this problem when I first started to drive an auto, I found I couldn't drive it comfortably to "standard"

A few hours training with my groups auto expert, learning how to actually use that auto box, and all was sorted.

There are of course many types of automatic, and they require different driving techniques, we have two, a tiptronic 5 series, and a centrifugral smart car, I imagine the hardest one's to drive would be those that just have PNDR.
Yep, black front wheels were a sign of my driving for the first few months with our standard auto. I just couldn't kept catching up to the car in front of me all the time and had to learn a totally different pattern of anticipation and develop a kind of coasting habit to improve. I was used to the car slowing down a bit when I'd lift off, the auto just doesn't.

anonymous-user

74 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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What about the ones who brake every time a car comes towards them in the oppsite direction? Sadlly happens all the time in Sussex and drives me mad!

sturobturbo

5,746 posts

166 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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MercScot said:
What about the ones who brake every time a car comes towards them in the oppsite direction? Sadlly happens all the time in Sussex and drives me mad!
My mum does that - she's a fking menace on the roads. Should never have passed, and her driving has only ever deteriorated since that time.

750turbo

6,164 posts

244 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Hoygo said:
If you drive like this even at 20 mph,brakes will overheat and get fvcked just like after a trackday.
No they will not.

Still a fekkin pain, but an observant driver will quickly pickup on anyone who does this, and steer clear.

Spanna

3,736 posts

196 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Nigel Worc's said:
I had this problem when I first started to drive an auto, I found I couldn't drive it comfortably to "standard"

A few hours training with my groups auto expert, learning how to actually use that auto box, and all was sorted.

There are of course many types of automatic, and they require different driving techniques, we have two, a tiptronic 5 series, and a centrifugral smart car, I imagine the hardest one's to drive would be those that just have PNDR.
You'd love the 4 speed auto we have in the Jimny hehe

MattGTA

419 posts

192 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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I have a worrying feeling that this is a sign of how many people need an eye test.

(In a "what's that? i'll brake until its close enough for me to see" kind of way)

fausTVR

1,442 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Always found the sufficient space you leave ahead of you to be the key to it. Ran a few auto barges and never really had any bother with the witless brake dabbers ahead, just a faintly smug feeling at how hard they are having to concentrate to keep their seven foot gap constant.

cuprabob

17,605 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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I always try to leave a gap in front so that I don't need to brake everytime the car in front does however you either get someone cutting in in front or get abuse from the guy behind

Ultuous

2,275 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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HonestIago said:
In these hard times one would assume the average motorist would be more conscious of the fact that every time you touch the brake pedal you are effectively wasting fuel as well as wearing out pads/discs.
Indeed - the worst thing is that they also seem to be the ignoramuses who refuse to put their lights on unless it's pitch-black, presumably because they think it will "wear the battery out"!!!

HBFS

803 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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OP, just make sure you never go to Shanghai. Your head would explode.