Schumacher and the cosmic rules of Karma

[toppstuff]

A lot is being said about how Schumacher does not seem to have any luck these days.

Am I the only one thinking that maybe, just maybe, there is such a thing as Karma?

In the big cosmic order of the universe, it seems as if the gods do have a way of keeping balance on occasion.


Just sayin...

[superkartracer]

Maybe, but he's still one of the best ever and you? well... who are ya

[DanB7290]

The Mercedes mechanics forgot to pack the WD40

[hotmelt]

There are still about 13 races this year..

[mattikake]

If there is such a thing as Karma, somehow the Schmacker needs to spend another 5 years unlucky years in F1... but there's no chance of that, because there's almost nothing left of his "the greatest" smokescreen.

[Steamer]

Karma?! Wasn't he being paid 20million per season when he drove a red car?...

... I'd put up with quite a few 'bad days at the office' for a slice of Micky Cobbler's pie!

[cosicave]

toppstuff said:

A lot is being said about how Schumacher does not seem to have any luck these days.

Am I the only one thinking that maybe, just maybe, there is such a thing as Karma?

In the big cosmic order of the universe, it seems as if the gods do have a way of keeping balance on occasion.


Just sayin...

No, you're not… (!)

[cosicave]

mattikake said:

If there is such a thing as Karma, somehow the Schmacker needs to spend another 5 years unlucky years in F1... but there's no chance of that, because there's almost nothing left of his "the greatest" smokescreen.

Full marks for having the guts to say this.

With this particular individual, karma would seem to have an awful lot of catching up to do…

[Life Saab Itch]

cosicave said:

Full marks for having the guts to say this.

Mental-tastic.

[KrazyIvan]

Record Number
Championship titles 7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Consecutive titles 5 (2000–2004)
Championship won with most races left 6 (2002)
Largest championship-winning margin
(pre-2010 points system) 67 points (2002)
Race wins 91
Consecutive wins[N 1] 7 (2004, Europe–Hungary)
Wins in a season 13 (72%) (2004)
Wins in a season for a runner-up[N 2] 7 (2006)
Wins at Monza (Formula One) 5
Wins with one team 72 (Ferrari)
Wins at the same Grand Prix 8 (France)
Different Grands Prix won 22
Longest time between first and last wins 14 years, 32 days
Total years with a win 15 (1992–2006)
Consecutive years with a win 15 (1992–2006)
Second places 43
Consecutive top two finishes 15 (Brazil 2002–Japan 2002)
Podiums (Top 3 finishes) 154
Podium finishes in a season 17 (100%) (2002)
Consecutive podium finishes 19 (US 2001–Japan 2002)
Championship points 1,519
Points finishes 215
Consecutive points finishes 24 (Hungary 2001–Malaysia 2003)
Races / Laps / Distance led 142 races / 5,111 laps / 24,144 km[186]
Pole positions 68
Front row starts 116
Fastest laps 76
Fastest laps in a season[N 3]
</ref> 10 (2004)
Doubles (Pole and win) 40
Hat tricks (Pole, win and fastest lap) 22
Hat tricks in a season 5 in 2004[N 4]
Races with one team 181 (Ferrari)


Yeah, it was all just good luck

[toppstuff]

KrazyIvan said:

Record Number
Championship titles 7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Consecutive titles 5 (2000–2004)
Championship won with most races left 6 (2002)
Largest championship-winning margin
(pre-2010 points system) 67 points (2002)
Race wins 91
Consecutive wins[N 1] 7 (2004, Europe–Hungary)
Wins in a season 13 (72%) (2004)
Wins in a season for a runner-up[N 2] 7 (2006)
Wins at Monza (Formula One) 5
Wins with one team 72 (Ferrari)
Wins at the same Grand Prix 8 (France)
Different Grands Prix won 22
Longest time between first and last wins 14 years, 32 days
Total years with a win 15 (1992–2006)
Consecutive years with a win 15 (1992–2006)
Second places 43
Consecutive top two finishes 15 (Brazil 2002–Japan 2002)
Podiums (Top 3 finishes) 154
Podium finishes in a season 17 (100%) (2002)
Consecutive podium finishes 19 (US 2001–Japan 2002)
Championship points 1,519
Points finishes 215
Consecutive points finishes 24 (Hungary 2001–Malaysia 2003)
Races / Laps / Distance led 142 races / 5,111 laps / 24,144 km[186]
Pole positions 68
Front row starts 116
Fastest laps 76
Fastest laps in a season[N 3]
</ref> 10 (2004)
Doubles (Pole and win) 40
Hat tricks (Pole, win and fastest lap) 22
Hat tricks in a season 5 in 2004[N 4]
Races with one team 181 (Ferrari)


Yeah, it was all just good luck

Yep, coupled with several other factors that, shall we say, rather tilted the playing field in his favour

But lets not get into details.

[Life Saab Itch]

Wins to starts tells a more interesting story.

[RedexR]

it would seem he no longer has "influence" over his team mate either...oh the Karma

[SRT77]

RedexR said:

it would seem he no longer has "influence" over his team mate either...oh the Karma

And what influence could that possibly be in his current situation - ask Rosberg to break down in sympathy at every race.

Oh the sadness of the haters!

[zip929]

superkartracer said:

Maybe, but he's still one of the best ever and you? well... who are ya

He was one of the greatest drivers, and should have stayed retired.

Like a boxer who tries to go for one more fight, never works out.

I was a massive fan of MS, spent 1997 watching him race live all over the world, and IMHO there was no-one around at that time who could hold a candle to him. He did not win the tile but he was definitely the most naturally gifted driver out there.

He always had a litle bit over everyone else, a genius.

That seems to have gone now, age, not sure but he should have stayed retired.

We all hate to see our heroes get duffed up, but this now happens regalarly with MS. In his prime they would not have been near him.

All of course IMHO.

[jbudgie]

cosicave said:

mattikake said:

If there is such a thing as Karma, somehow the Schmacker needs to spend another 5 years unlucky years in F1... but there's no chance of that, because there's almost nothing left of his "the greatest" smokescreen.

Full marks for having the guts to say this.

With this particular individual, karma would seem to have an awful lot of catching up to do…

+100

[mattikake]

Even Karma couldn't get even with the Schmacker:-

He'd have to have a rival cheat him out of a WDC by ramming him out of the race, have another rival run an illegal car for a whole season to cheat him out of another WDC, spend 3 solid seasons with mechanical failures every race, be Rosberg's contractual and actual subordinate for at least another 8 seasons, create a record that would label him the worst F1 driver ever, have his face publically slapped by Bernie and Todt several times, drive for the only team that was forced to use crap tyres designed for another car and be deliberately punted or pushed off the track numerous times... at least.

Would be funny as hell to see that lot play out.

So far he's only got the most embarrassing comeback by an F1 champion ever, under his belt.

[vonuber]

mattikake said:

Even Karma couldn't get even with the Schmacker:-

He'd have to have a rival cheat him out of a WDC by ramming him out of the race, have another rival run an illegal car for a whole season to cheat him out of another WDC, spend 3 solid seasons with mechanical failures every race, be Rosberg's contractual and actual subordinate for at least another 8 seasons, create a record that would label him the worst F1 driver ever, have his face publically slapped by Bernie and Todt several times, drive for the only team that was forced to use crap tyres designed for another car and be deliberately punted or pushed off the track numerous times... at least.

Would be funny as hell to see that lot play out.

So far he's only got the most embarrassing comeback by an F1 champion ever, under his belt.

Are you ciderwithbertie in disguise?

[cosicave]

mattikake said:

Even Karma couldn't get even with the Schmacker:-

He'd have to have a rival cheat him out of a WDC by ramming him out of the race, have another rival run an illegal car for a whole season to cheat him out of another WDC, spend 3 solid seasons with mechanical failures every race, be Rosberg's contractual and actual subordinate for at least another 8 seasons, create a record that would label him the worst F1 driver ever, have his face publically slapped by Bernie and Todt several times, drive for the only team that was forced to use crap tyres designed for another car and be deliberately punted or pushed off the track numerous times... at least.

Would be funny as hell to see that lot play out.

So far he's only got the most embarrassing comeback by an F1 champion ever, under his belt.

Hehehe…
Did you, per chance, write the "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch for Monty Python, mattikake?

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
"Well, of course, we 'ad it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife."…

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• Actually, I happen to agree with you that this guy has probably cheated karma too…

[superkartracer]

mattikake said:

So far he's only got the most embarrassing comeback by an F1 champion ever, under his belt.

mattikake's Toyota MR2 MK3 (2001)

Wicked wicked fun! Far better handling than an MX5 or MGTF. 'Nuff said?

Still mastering spin turns.