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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18415532
Apparently Diesel fumes cause cancer.
Who would have thought that?!
Apparently Diesel fumes cause cancer.
Who would have thought that?!
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When they banned leaded fuel due to lead poisoning. In the doses we were exposed to in the atmosphere the worst that would happen is a headache and slight wooziness. They replaced that with Unleaded containing many things to replace the lead, all of which were massivley carcinogenic.
Don't be surprised by any of this, those in charge are brain dead twonks and will be forever more.
It's all about being seen to be doing the right thing, as opposed to actually doing it.
Don't be surprised by any of this, those in charge are brain dead twonks and will be forever more.
It's all about being seen to be doing the right thing, as opposed to actually doing it.
That was the reason always given for California's very strict emissions standards for particulates from diesel cars, and the reason few were sold in America, only recently have car manufacturers managed to build low enough emission engines with particulate filters e.t.c. So it is really only confirming older findings, not something new.
Strawman said:
That was the reason always given for California's very strict emissions standards for particulates from diesel cars, and the reason few were sold in America, only recently have car manufacturers managed to build low enough emission engines with particulate filters e.t.c. So it is really only confirming older findings, not something new.
That's a somewhat disingenuous statement. Diesel sold in the US was refined to a very different standard to that sold in Europe and contained much higher proportions of unpleasant chemicals (sulphur in particular). In fact the quality of the fuel was so bad that some states effectively legislated against diesel fuelled passenger cars. The reason so few diesel cars were sold in the US was that the more advanced and cleaner diesel engines sold in Europe simply couldn't run on the lower quality US fuel, and until you improved the fuel quality you couldn't use the cleaner engines.
The only findings that California's emission controls confirmed was that commercially available diesel in Europe was cleaner than that in the US.
GoodDoc said:
That's a somewhat disingenuous statement.
No it is quite genuine, read the actual legislation it is all about particulate matter in the air, which originate primarily from Diesel engines and forest fires. This was enacted in 1998, so 14 years ago now, nothing to do with the sulphur quantity in American Diesel fuel.Strawman said:
No it is quite genuine, read the actual legislation it is all about particulate matter in the air, which originate primarily from Diesel engines and forest fires. This was enacted in 1998, so 14 years ago now, nothing to do with the sulphur quantity in American Diesel fuel.
But as you pointed out, the legislation applied to cars and not trucks. It seems rather shortsighted to identify diesel engines as a primary source of particulate matter in the air and only apply the emissions limits to 'light-duty' vehicles'.Much as the cause of the US civil war was not simply 'slavery', the reason for diesel's small share of the US passenger car market is not simply 'emissions'.
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