time for a change Z4MC to z4/boxster/350z
time for a change Z4MC to z4/boxster/350z
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custardkid

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Its time for a change and after 3 years the Z4MC is going to be replaced with a cheaper weekend car, freeing up some money to be spent on the track car and a tow car.

After a Tuscan a few years a go i fancy some open top motoring again

Rules:
- fairly reliable, (so no TVRs or really old stuff, the Tuscan was always being fixed when i wanted to use it)
- No 4 cylinder engines
- £8k budget

thinking
3l Z4
Boxster S (2003)
350z (although its about 300kg heavier!)

left field:
Jag XKR (old shape)?

what should i get?
What do i need to look out for?

Custard

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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A 350Z is only about 100kg heavier than an MC.

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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custardkid said:
Its time for a change and after 3 years the Z4MC is going to be replaced with a cheaper weekend car, freeing up some money to be spent on the track car and a tow car.

After a Tuscan a few years a go i fancy some open top motoring again

Rules:
- fairly reliable, (so no TVRs or really old stuff, the Tuscan was always being fixed when i wanted to use it)
- No 4 cylinder engines
- £8k budget

thinking
3l Z4
Boxster S (2003)
350z (although its about 300kg heavier!)

left field:
Jag XKR (old shape)?

what should i get?
What do i need to look out for?

Custard
Do you really think 8k is enough for a reliable Boxster S that wont keep you awake at night as it sits in the drive? Even a 3l Z4 is going to be leggy at that price. Im thinking along the same lines as you and I honestly cant see how Im going to get into either for less than 13-14.

The 350Z is only one there that I think offers some peice of mind at that price point I would say. But ye gods, those interiors....

Another left field option could be E46 330Ci convertible. Ive considered these also but worry that Im buying something two models out of date and quite obviously, whilst the Z4 design hasnt changed.

Fox-

13,483 posts

266 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Reardy Mister said:
Ive considered these also but worry that Im buying something two models out of date and quite obviously, whilst the Z4 design hasnt changed.
The E46 330Ci Cab is not two models out of date - it is one model of out of date. The E93 is not due for replacement until 2014. It is also wrong to say the Z4 design hasn't changed - it was replaced in 2009 with an all-new model with folding hardtop roof.

The E85 Z4 is a largely E46 based vehicle so both are very much of the same 'era'.

billzeebub

3,887 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Boxster S

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Fox- said:
Reardy Mister said:
Ive considered these also but worry that Im buying something two models out of date and quite obviously, whilst the Z4 design hasnt changed.
The E46 330Ci Cab is not two models out of date - it is one model of out of date. The E93 is not due for replacement until 2014. It is also wrong to say the Z4 design hasn't changed - it was replaced in 2009 with an all-new model with folding hardtop roof.

The E85 Z4 is a largely E46 based vehicle so both are very much of the same 'era'.
Ok, the new shape convertible wont be along very soon. Fair one. And yes there is a new Z4. But the difference between the current 3 and the E46 is drastic and there are few Z4s around in any case. The previous and current cars look so different they could be different models. The previous design was pretty ageless I think.


Kong

1,503 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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As a Z4 3.0i owner I suggest you get the Boxster S. I couldn't handle downgrading to a lesser version of the same car, at least the Porsche could be considered a 'sidestep'.

Have you looked at the SLK350? A little bit over budget but a really nice car and worth a look.

Shame about the no 4 pot criteria otherwise an S2000 would be perfect.

falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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After my wife had the Z3M we got her the Boxster S and she's had it for 60k without any issue at all other than the usual maintenance.
As long as its been looked after then there is no reason an £8k Boxster S shouldn't be reliable.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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falkster said:
As long as its been looked after then there is no reason an £8k Boxster S shouldn't be reliable.
Except of course for the well known engine issues

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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redgriff500 said:
falkster said:
As long as its been looked after then there is no reason an £8k Boxster S shouldn't be reliable.
Except of course for the well known engine issues
yes

Well documented over in the Porsche forum CustardKid.

andyroo

2,469 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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How about an Audi S4 B6 vert for some V8 rumblyness?

falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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redgriff500 said:
Except of course for the well known engine issues
Don't you think an 8 grand Boxster will be passed the IMS worry, or atleast less likely?

custardkid

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Will do some research on the IMS issue, but there seem to be lots of boxsters at the £8k mark, so there must be a good one....

Z4 down grade does concern me, but have driven a friends 3.0 Si coupe and it's fun in isolation, except the run flats

S4 - V8 would be awesome, will have a look, but being based on a saloon it won't feel like a sports car. The difference in feel between the M3 and Z4 is night and day.

Should add the car will be a wkend / sunny day car, but handle a driving holiday in Europe trouble free. C5k miles per year.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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falkster said:
redgriff500 said:
Except of course for the well known engine issues
Don't you think an 8 grand Boxster will be passed the IMS worry, or atleast less likely?
No and that's not the only worry - oval bores.

Take a look on the Porsche specialists website or search it on here.

I considered a Boxster S and a 996 and came to the conclusion that unless you are willing to accept the possibility of a £5k bill don't buy one.

And as I've mentioned before a mate has a GT3 - the one that isn't affected by failure - funny how he's had 3 in 4k then. They have just replaced the crank under warranty.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

210 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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custardkid said:
Its time for a change and after 3 years the Z4MC is going to be replaced with a cheaper weekend car, freeing up some money to be spent on the track car and a tow car.

After a Tuscan a few years a go i fancy some open top motoring again

Rules:
- fairly reliable, (so no TVRs or really old stuff, the Tuscan was always being fixed when i wanted to use it)
- No 4 cylinder engines
- £8k budget

thinking
3l Z4
Boxster S (2003)
350z (although its about 300kg heavier!)

left field:
Jag XKR (old shape)?

what should i get?
What do i need to look out for?

Custard
Corvette C4? Either a full vert or all the coupes have a removable roof panel. 5.7 V8 and probably a 6 speed manual for your budget. Rock solid residuals too and cheap to run.

irocfan

45,760 posts

210 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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to go further than 300 - how about a late model 4th gen f-body (TransAm/Camaro) with t-tops, great sound-track reasonable running costs and at this point very little depreciation.

Crossfire convertable (marmite looks though tbh) low mileage and reliable

playalistic

2,270 posts

184 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Corvette C4? Either a full vert or all the coupes have a removable roof panel. 5.7 V8 and probably a 6 speed manual for your budget. Rock solid residuals too and cheap to run.
The obligatory 300bhp/ton st American what-car post

80sboy

452 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Reardy Mister said:
custardkid said:
Its time for a change and after 3 years the Z4MC is going to be replaced with a cheaper weekend car, freeing up some money to be spent on the track car and a tow car.

After a Tuscan a few years a go i fancy some open top motoring again

Rules:
- fairly reliable, (so no TVRs or really old stuff, the Tuscan was always being fixed when i wanted to use it)
- No 4 cylinder engines
- £8k budget

thinking
3l Z4
Boxster S (2003)
350z (although its about 300kg heavier!)

left field:
Jag XKR (old shape)?

what should i get?
What do i need to look out for?

Custard
Do you really think 8k is enough for a reliable Boxster S that wont keep you awake at night as it sits in the drive? Even a 3l Z4 is going to be leggy at that price. Im thinking along the same lines as you and I honestly cant see how Im going to get into either for less than 13-14.

The 350Z is only one there that I think offers some peice of mind at that price point I would say. But ye gods, those interiors....

Another left field option could be E46 330Ci convertible. Ive considered these also but worry that Im buying something two models out of date and quite obviously, whilst the Z4 design hasnt changed.
What you've just said is totally inaccurate.

I sold a fantastic example of a BMW Z4 3.0i last year for just shy of 9k; this figure was over book value and more than other Z4's advertised with similar age/spec/mileage. The car had 50k miles on the clock, was in as new condition, with nearly every option.

The op will find a great Z4 for £8k, I couldn't recommend that option enough. I can't be certain with the Boxster S, but it's probably a similar story.

Bad advice, Reardy Mister.

Edited by 80sboy on Wednesday 13th June 17:00

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

216 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Mates going to look at a 3.0 Z4 this week, 55 or 56 reg I think for £6.5k, there are plenty around & it's only done 50-60k miles.

Got to admit I'm tempted myself at those prices

anonymous-user

74 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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OP, is you z4m already for sale? I'm in the market for one of these at the moment