Heaters
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h19 jjm

Original Poster:

162 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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After being in a freinds Chimera last night,i have suddenly realised my heaters are stuck on!!(after 2 years)
Whilst his are blowing nice cold air,im in a sauna.
So i was wondering anyone else had this problem,or had it fixed,is it easy to do?
Thanks, John.

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Mines the same, i think there is a problem with the gear wheel which operates the valve for hot or cold losing it's teeth, thus it gets stuck in the last position it was in. I'm not sure if you can move the valve by hand????

RichB

56,218 posts

313 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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The controls aren’t gear driven (not on the 500 anyway) they are driven by servos and motors. The temp control knob on the panel controls a servo motor under the dash behind the glove-box and this motor, in turn, opens and closes the water valve in the heater water flow pipes. The problem is that the valve slips out of alignment and so hot water can continually bypass the valve giving the warm or very hot settings we are all familiar with. If you look underneath the glove-box (in fact take it out to make it easier) you should see that the valve is like a gas tap and has a white blob of paint in the cold (i.e. off) position. There is also a grub screw which loosens the valve on the spindle. Just turn the heater control knob on the panel to cold settings and then make sure the blob is aligned and the valve is turned off. Re-tighten the grub screw and test by turning the control from cold to hot and back and watch to see the valve opens and closes properly. If you do this you will get cold air, trust me! Rich... p.s. I have a picture somewhere; if you are really interested I'll post it on my web site and create a link. R...

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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I'm interested, as i'm melting when ever i go anywhere!!!

wixer

373 posts

279 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Yeh, me too.
Also had a problem last night with the servo that controls the distributon to feet/screen, it seems to have mind of it's own and wouldn't keep the air blowing onto the screen, any ideas on this one ???

RichB

56,218 posts

313 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Stuart what's your e-mail address? Rich...

Joolzb

3,549 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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I had a look at my heater servo last night to try and get it to the cold setting. Mine seems to have a micro switch on it that stops the motor turning at cold. The car still blows out hot air tho so I was wondering if there was anything else to adjust/check?

andy43

13,144 posts

283 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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Always had this prob on mine - the switch on the dash turns a motor/servo in the passenger footwell, which pushes a rod to move the heater valve to vary the water flow into the matrix. There are limit switches either end of the full travel of the motor/valve, so when you get to hottest or coldest, the limit switch trips and cuts power to the motor. Mine sticks on hot because the limit switch isn't quite in the right place - too much movement and the rod goes slightly past overcentre, so it can't get back to its correct movement sweep - try pressing the dash switch towards cold, while easing the valve a little with the other hand - it may help the valve to move.
On the plus side, it helps keep the engine cool
On the down side, a pair of deckshoes will only last a couple of hundred miles in hot weather - smell gets unbearable after that

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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The valve is the hose not the matrix, Rich i think we need a pic. The one on the matrix is the "upper downy valve" for air direction. Cue Joolzb as i have just suggested it to him.

JoolzB

3,549 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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david beer said:
Cue Joolzb as i have just suggested it to him.

Lol.
Just to clarify things...

There are 3 motors

1) Heater - this is on the rubber hose under the dash on the passenger side
2) Air direction - attached to the matrix behind the glover
3) Fresh air vs recirc. - next to the battery box

Does that sound right?

andy43

13,144 posts

283 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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Heater one sounds like mine - never had to play with the others tho'. Peeling the carpet down (spray-mounted over the heating pipes) between the top of the transmission tunnel and the drop-down floormat that covers the battery lets you get right in to have a look at it.

pebbledash

795 posts

295 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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andy43 said:
Heater one sounds like mine - never had to play with the others tho'. Peeling the carpet down (spray-mounted over the heating pipes) between the top of the transmission tunnel and the drop-down floormat that covers the battery lets you get right in to have a look at it.


I have the dash out of mine so can poke the camera in and take a few pics if you like.. the center console is back in but the ribbon going to the Black Control box ad motors is clearly visible..

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Friday 6th August 2004
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Yep Joolzb, looks like you have never turned yours to cold, well only by mistake !