Piezo crystal question

Piezo crystal question

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MissChief

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7,126 posts

169 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I know that a Piezo crystal puts out a low charge when flexed, but what i don't know is if it continues to put out this charge or if the crystal needs to be continously flexed? Can you deform it and it will continue to put out a small charge or does it need to be continually flexed?

jet_noise

5,663 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Dear MC,

MissChief said:
I know that a Piezo crystal puts out a low charge when flexed, but what i don't know is if it continues to put out this charge or if the crystal needs to be continously flexed? Can you deform it and it will continue to put out a small charge or does it need to be continually flexed?
Where is the energy coming from to generate the charge when it is deformed i.e. static(pun intended)?

regards,
Jet

spikeyhead

17,369 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Quartz, the most commonly used piezo material is an insulator. When flexed electrons are moved and if the flex continues then the electrons will stay where they were pushed to, so there's a potential difference (voltage). As the quartz is an insulator the electrons can't flow anywhere to cause a current.

Simpo Two

85,631 posts

266 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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jet_noise said:
Where is the energy coming from to generate the charge when it is deformed
The bloke leaning on it.

Huff

3,165 posts

192 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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First example that comes to mind is piezo pickups - I have some in my upright Steinberger bass.

Forget any hope of 'DC' current output. As pointed-out above the intrinsic characteristic is a very, very high impedance output, which means you can't actually draw any useful current at all. Piezos will only develop significant voltage across a very large impedance - esp. if you want a decent low frequency response, as I do! (>10Mohm minimum loading via a jfet input, for the nerds)

If you can arrange that then piezos are very useful as sensors; they even have uses as micro-actuators if fed a high enough voltage!

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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MissChief said:
I know that a Piezo crystal puts out a low charge when flexed, but what i don't know is if it continues to put out this charge or if the crystal needs to be continously flexed? Can you deform it and it will continue to put out a small charge or does it need to be continually flexed?
Continually flexed. Luckily the common applications (sound transceivers, oscillators etc.) rely on oscillating waveforms, not DC output, thus the crystal is continually flexed and unflexed, producing a charge.

MissChief

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7,126 posts

169 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Ok thanks. I just had an idea for something for a car that some of the chavs might like but I'm not sure it would work because of this.