Impressive C130J
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Waynester

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6,514 posts

279 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Borrowed from YouTube thread.

Impressive manoeuvres for a big bird.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=432_1339569880

Vieste

10,532 posts

189 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Very good.

iphonedyou

10,406 posts

186 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Very impressive!!

Brigand

2,547 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Impressive stuff.

It always amazes me just how agile modern big planes are. When I worked at Brize Norton I used to love seeing the C-17's being thrown around like fighters. I doubt they'd be doing it with a full load though!

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Impressive amount of warnings being set off in the cockpit hehe

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Felt sorry for the paratroopers in the back.


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Lovely bit of flying! He really knows his aircraft and also a nice bit of teamwork with the rh seat. I guess the latest engine spec C130 now has a pretty impressive unladen power to weight ratio?

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Considering it's the LM display crew one would HOPE they were good!

0a

24,133 posts

223 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Hooli said:
Impressive amount of warnings being set off in the cockpit hehe
Is that the Windows 95 'dink dink' error noise?

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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0a said:
Hooli said:
Impressive amount of warnings being set off in the cockpit hehe
Is that the Windows 95 'dink dink' error noise?
Wouldn't surprise me hehe

Hard-Drive

4,291 posts

258 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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I'm not a "pilot" but I have been solo and I'm amazed about the colossal inputs he is making, especially in roll. Is this normal in a big aircraft like that?

Love the way that every warning system is stting itself and he's just saying "everything is good" the whole way through!

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Hard-Drive said:
I'm not a "pilot" but I have been solo and I'm amazed about the colossal inputs he is making, especially in roll. Is this normal in a big aircraft like that?
Being a high-winged a/c, coupled with its size, means that Albert has a relatively high level of 'Roll Inertia' (despite what can only be described as an amazing Roll Rate for a large a/c). The upshot is that if you want to get Albert rolling fast (or indeed stop him rolling fast) you use what would (on other a/c) be perceived to be large control inputs.

Ginetta G15 Girl

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213 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Max_Torque said:
I guess the latest engine spec C130 now has a pretty impressive unladen power to weight ratio?
The C130K with its Allison T56 turboprops (same as C130H) produced 19,600 in.lbs of torque per engine in the T/O configuration (which equivalates to 4590 shaft horsepower).

C130J with its RR AE2100 turboprops produces 4637 shp.

The operating weights have not changed between the two types.

The major difference between them is that the J is more efficient WRT fuel burn, has a higher cruise, and can climb faster than the K. Primarily this is due to the better Dowty props fitted to the J compared to the Hamilton-Standards fitted to the K.

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Max_Torque said:
I guess the latest engine spec C130 now has a pretty impressive unladen power to weight ratio?
The C130K with its Allison T56 turboprops (same as C130H) produced 19,600 in.lbs of torque per engine in the T/O configuration (which equivalates to 4590 shaft horsepower).

C130J with its RR AE2100 turboprops produces 4637 shp.

The operating weights have not changed between the two types.

The major difference between them is that the J is more efficient WRT fuel burn, has a higher cruise, and can climb faster than the K. Primarily this is due to the better Dowty props fitted to the J compared to the Hamilton-Standards fitted to the K.
The much better fuel efficiency means they don't use external fuel tanks (unlike the 'K')although the hard points and plumbing are there if they need to fit them.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Which in itself is one of the major reasons why the wing shoulder joints are worn out a mere 10 years into the life of the a/c (lack of wing bending relief on high ZFW sorties), whereas the Ks made 20 years before needing to be re-winged.

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Which in itself is one of the major reasons why the wing shoulder joints are worn out a mere 10 years into the life of the a/c (lack of wing bending relief on high ZFW sorties), whereas the Ks made 20 years before needing to be re-winged.
It was less than 20 years, but I get your point.

c7xlg

928 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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when I was doing some work at Dowty Props a few years back I was told the story of the US Colonel (or similar high rank) who insisted on standing up betwene the pilots on a K for a take off roll. The pilots asked him to sit down/buckle up... he replied 'i've been flying on c-130 for 20+ years I'll be fine'.

so the pilots did what pilots do and showed off the improved take-off/climb of the K resulting in the Colonel sitting on his ar8e against the cockpit door!

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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c7xlg said:
when I was doing some work at Dowty Props a few years back I was told the story of the US Colonel (or similar high rank) who insisted on standing up betwene the pilots on a K for a take off roll. The pilots asked him to sit down/buckle up... he replied 'i've been flying on c-130 for 20+ years I'll be fine'.

so the pilots did what pilots do and showed off the improved take-off/climb of the K resulting in the Colonel sitting on his ar8e against the cockpit door!
I think you mean 'J'. wink

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Plus the fact that Albert doesn't have a Flight Deck door! wink

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Plus the fact that Albert doesn't have a Flight Deck door! wink
He'd end up on the bunk!