Saw stewart lee last night...
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On stage, he was meant to be there. I didnt just see him going into a dry cleaners and hang around outside for him or anything.
Anyway, ive watched his stuff closely over the years. I remember him being a young comedian and the quality of his material being overshadowedy by the smarmy youthfulness of his appearance and delivery. Fast forward to now and i hate to admit it but it was a very, very strong, precise and pretty brave set. He's aged to the point where the content and delivery seems highly credible, the subject matter fits him and the structure of the set was at first disarmingly loose and then later revealed as being frighteningly accurate and well timed.
He may appear a bit left/liberal for PH, but he was top quality. THe tour is called Carpet Remnant World if anyone wants to catch it. Vince Fox received no commission or benefit for producing this post.
Anyway, ive watched his stuff closely over the years. I remember him being a young comedian and the quality of his material being overshadowedy by the smarmy youthfulness of his appearance and delivery. Fast forward to now and i hate to admit it but it was a very, very strong, precise and pretty brave set. He's aged to the point where the content and delivery seems highly credible, the subject matter fits him and the structure of the set was at first disarmingly loose and then later revealed as being frighteningly accurate and well timed.
He may appear a bit left/liberal for PH, but he was top quality. THe tour is called Carpet Remnant World if anyone wants to catch it. Vince Fox received no commission or benefit for producing this post.
I don't usually do this (that's a lie for a start) because it's pointlessly negative but I can't abide him. Having said that, he's a conundrum and at present I'm trying to tease out what it is I don't like about him, whether it actually is him I don't like or, and this is more likely, his sycophantically obsessive fan base (not meaning present company...actually...not knowing you personally, perhaps I am, but I kinda doubt it). Any article about or by him on The Guardian site generates a wave of comments that take arse licking to new heights/depths.
I recognise he's extremely accomplished, hugely intelligent and very insightful (and in interviews is simply a very nice bloke) but his written articles and overall "message" have cultivated (deliberately and knowingly, I know it's part of the joke) such a level of "holier than thou"-ness about him that I generally find his DVDs insufferable and plain unfunny. There's the odd funny bit but there's a wealth of tedium surrounding it.
Phew...yes, he does hit my unfunny bone, hence my post. I guess I simply don't get "it".
And like I said at the start, sorry to be critical I'm genuinely glad you enjoyed him, I'll no doubt end up watching the DVD at one mate or anothers house in future...
I recognise he's extremely accomplished, hugely intelligent and very insightful (and in interviews is simply a very nice bloke) but his written articles and overall "message" have cultivated (deliberately and knowingly, I know it's part of the joke) such a level of "holier than thou"-ness about him that I generally find his DVDs insufferable and plain unfunny. There's the odd funny bit but there's a wealth of tedium surrounding it.
Phew...yes, he does hit my unfunny bone, hence my post. I guess I simply don't get "it".
And like I said at the start, sorry to be critical I'm genuinely glad you enjoyed him, I'll no doubt end up watching the DVD at one mate or anothers house in future...
DrTre said:
I don't usually do this (that's a lie for a start) because it's pointlessly negative but I can't abide him. Having said that, he's a conundrum and at present I'm trying to tease out what it is I don't like about him, whether it actually is him I don't like or, and this is more likely, his sycophantically obsessive fan base (not meaning present company...actually...not knowing you personally, perhaps I am, but I kinda doubt it). Any article about or by him on The Guardian site generates a wave of comments that take arse licking to new heights/depths.
I recognise he's extremely accomplished, hugely intelligent and very insightful (and in interviews is simply a very nice bloke) but his written articles and overall "message" have cultivated (deliberately and knowingly, I know it's part of the joke) such a level of "holier than thou"-ness about him that I generally find his DVDs insufferable and plain unfunny. There's the odd funny bit but there's a wealth of tedium surrounding it.
Phew...yes, he does hit my unfunny bone, hence my post.
And like I said at the start, sorry to be critical I'm genuinely glad you enjoyed him, I'll no doubt end up watching the DVD at one mate or anothers house in future...
He's a weird one, definitely. I'd agree there's something intinsically dislikable about the person which ive wrestled with too and the cadence of his delivery does come over as a little sug sometimes, but watching him live he was a lot funnier than i'd given him credit for previously. I think age is helping him.I recognise he's extremely accomplished, hugely intelligent and very insightful (and in interviews is simply a very nice bloke) but his written articles and overall "message" have cultivated (deliberately and knowingly, I know it's part of the joke) such a level of "holier than thou"-ness about him that I generally find his DVDs insufferable and plain unfunny. There's the odd funny bit but there's a wealth of tedium surrounding it.
Phew...yes, he does hit my unfunny bone, hence my post.
And like I said at the start, sorry to be critical I'm genuinely glad you enjoyed him, I'll no doubt end up watching the DVD at one mate or anothers house in future...
Ha!
I do like the guy, this is what sort of annoys me!
I suppose that's kind of part of the conundrum (and part of the joke on people like us I guess), his stage persona/delivery is very obviously designed to irk some people. It's just that that irksome-ness is what his "fans" love, and that really grates for some reason.
I'm far from being right wing in my views but I'll give him credit that I think he's perfected something the left find difficult to achieve and that's to get under the skin of right wingers. I don't particularly mean in comedy circles, I mean in general. It's very easy to wind a left leaning person up by adopting any stance that opposes them, they take the bait almost every time, in any situation. It's often fun. It's tricky to do the same to right wingers because they tend to err on the "I don't really give a s
t what you think" side of things and are less prone to try and convince you of their beliefs.
I get the impression he has the ability to get to do that, and I do like that aspect.
You know what.. I think it's his fans I can't abide because they think they can emulate it, and they just can't.
I do like the guy, this is what sort of annoys me!
I suppose that's kind of part of the conundrum (and part of the joke on people like us I guess), his stage persona/delivery is very obviously designed to irk some people. It's just that that irksome-ness is what his "fans" love, and that really grates for some reason.
I'm far from being right wing in my views but I'll give him credit that I think he's perfected something the left find difficult to achieve and that's to get under the skin of right wingers. I don't particularly mean in comedy circles, I mean in general. It's very easy to wind a left leaning person up by adopting any stance that opposes them, they take the bait almost every time, in any situation. It's often fun. It's tricky to do the same to right wingers because they tend to err on the "I don't really give a s
t what you think" side of things and are less prone to try and convince you of their beliefs.I get the impression he has the ability to get to do that, and I do like that aspect.
You know what.. I think it's his fans I can't abide because they think they can emulate it, and they just can't.
DrTre said:
Ha!
I do like the guy, this is what sort of annoys me!
I suppose that's kind of part of the conundrum (and part of the joke on people like us I guess), his stage persona/delivery is very obviously designed to irk some people. It's just that that irksome-ness is what his "fans" love, and that really grates for some reason.
I'm far from being right wing in my views but I'll give him credit that I think he's perfected something the left find difficult to achieve and that's to get under the skin of right wingers. I don't particularly mean in comedy circles, I mean in general. It's very easy to wind a left leaning person up by adopting any stance that opposes them, they take the bait almost every time, in any situation. It's often fun. It's tricky to do the same to right wingers because they tend to err on the "I don't really give a st what you think" side of things and are less prone to try and convince you of their beliefs.
I get the impression he has the ability to get to do that, and I do like that aspect.
You know what.. I think it's his fans I can't abide because they think they can emulate it, and they just can't.
Youve hit the nail on the head in that last sentence. I do like the guy, this is what sort of annoys me!
I suppose that's kind of part of the conundrum (and part of the joke on people like us I guess), his stage persona/delivery is very obviously designed to irk some people. It's just that that irksome-ness is what his "fans" love, and that really grates for some reason.
I'm far from being right wing in my views but I'll give him credit that I think he's perfected something the left find difficult to achieve and that's to get under the skin of right wingers. I don't particularly mean in comedy circles, I mean in general. It's very easy to wind a left leaning person up by adopting any stance that opposes them, they take the bait almost every time, in any situation. It's often fun. It's tricky to do the same to right wingers because they tend to err on the "I don't really give a s
t what you think" side of things and are less prone to try and convince you of their beliefs.I get the impression he has the ability to get to do that, and I do like that aspect.
You know what.. I think it's his fans I can't abide because they think they can emulate it, and they just can't.
There was a lot of hipster scum in the audience. One kid in front of me in a set of buddy hollies and ironic tight 80s tat with some flesh hoops and his hair on backwards sounded like he had his first orgasm at one point.
VinceFox said:
One kid in front of me in a set of buddy hollies and ironic tight 80s tat with some flesh hoops and his hair on backwards sounded like he had his first orgasm at one point.
You had me at "hair on backwards" 
Perhaps I was a bit disparaging with my original comment, I know that he is a very clever and funny comedian, but if you gave me the choice between him and Richard Herring I'd go and see the one who looks the most like Charley Boorman.
I saw this show in May, it is very good. I left feeling mentally exhausted, it isn't like McIntyre where you just sit and watch you actually have to keep up with him. Everytime I go past a PC World or the like I just remember his show. If you enjoyed "Fist of Fun" They have released it on DVD 
If I could be bothered to find it, Stewart Lee would be my addition to the "people you'd never tire of punching in the face" thread.
He may well be a fantastic comedian, but the look on the smarmy's face renders me impervious to his wit.
He just looks so convinced of his own hilarity, the self righteous minge rag.
I'm also not convinced a lot of his "fans" really find him funny. They just say they do. They just say they do as they think it makes them seem intelligent. Floppy haired, androgynous fkpigs.
He may well be a fantastic comedian, but the look on the smarmy
's face renders me impervious to his wit. He just looks so convinced of his own hilarity, the self righteous minge rag.
I'm also not convinced a lot of his "fans" really find him funny. They just say they do. They just say they do as they think it makes them seem intelligent. Floppy haired, androgynous f
kpigs. I did find him funny, funnier than i expected to if im being honest. Hes learned to poke a bit of fun at himself with age and is very aware of how irritating people find him. I found myself roaring with laughter at some bits of it.
Id go so far as to say even though hes not instantly one of my favourite standups, it was definitely in the top five gigs ive seen. As it unravelled it became more apparent how every single thing hed said and done was very, very deliberate and accurate. To give you some context i'm far from left wing, in fact i have no political ideological alignment at all. Also, my favourite and the last comedian i saw was gerry sadowitz.
Id go so far as to say even though hes not instantly one of my favourite standups, it was definitely in the top five gigs ive seen. As it unravelled it became more apparent how every single thing hed said and done was very, very deliberate and accurate. To give you some context i'm far from left wing, in fact i have no political ideological alignment at all. Also, my favourite and the last comedian i saw was gerry sadowitz.
I like Stewart Lee, but I was a a little disappointed with this show when I saw it a while back. Light on content, a bit self-indulgent, and not up to the standard of his previous material.
To be fair to him, though, he did warn us at the start that it wasn't as good as his last show.
To be fair to him, though, he did warn us at the start that it wasn't as good as his last show.
spud989 said:
Can get a bit too much sometimes, but he can be great at others. Worth it for the Top Gear skit alone.
Is that the Richard Hammond joke that people like to post youtube links to?To me it sounded more like one entertainer whinging about another more successful entertainer.
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