E46 (2003) Sport ride opinions?
E46 (2003) Sport ride opinions?
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alienmuppet

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78 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Hi,
I've lowered my sites a bit from an E90 M Sport to an E46 (M?) Sport. I've test driven an E90 M Sport and to my surprise it was much more comfy than some had led me to believe even on runflats. I think they were 18" wheels too. In fact I thought the ride was really nice.

Now I'm looking at an E46, and I'm wondering how much worse the ride will be if I go for a sport. I prefer the look of the sport, but don't want my to get out of the car and be bruised all over ;-) If I stick non run flats on surely it won't be that far from a E90 with run flats? The one I'm looking at does have 18" wheels unfortunately. I imagine 17" wheels with normal rubber would be the most comfortable.

Anyone had much experience with this? I obviously need to take a test drive, but it's hard for me to go trekking everywhere at the minute with no car :-(

It's either this, or my fallback plan... an "exciting" Ford Focus :-( This was almost my default choice after realising buying an E90 would break the bank a little, even a 2006 model.

Cheers.

pstruck

3,524 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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The 'sport' is (IMO) a far better looking car than the non-sport models. This in the main is why I bought one (a 2003 330Ci Sport) a few years ago.

I really tried to like the car. The performance was sufficient for my needs, it was reasonably economical, for a 3 litre, the level of specification was great, the colour (in and out) was very much to my taste. However, I found the ride was just too harsh for me on the roads local to me that I use regularly.

I mention the type of roads (in my case lots of rural A’s and B’s), as if you only really use motorways and DC’s, plus smooth A roads, the ride will probably be fine. I just found it too firm on the surfaces I frequent. Add to that the tramlining issues and it made for a not particularly relaxing drive.

You of course may not think the same, this was just my experience. Test drive one and try to get on a variety of different road surfaces and see what you think.

philmots

4,660 posts

280 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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My old 330 Sports were super-comfy.

I'd imagine they will have a better ride than an e90 on runflats

kambites

70,291 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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My experience has been that the E46 rides better than the E90 like for like (on OEM tyres). So if you're happy with the E90 Sport on run-flats you'll find the E46 M-Sport fine. Obviously it will depend on wheel-size to an extent.

ETA: Without run-flats, the E90 is significantly better.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 19th June 12:07

NelsonR32

1,777 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Took a while to get used to the ride on my E46 Sport but it's livable now. What angers me more is the tramlining due to the mismatched tyres.

SBN

1,030 posts

172 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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pstruck said:
The 'sport' is (IMO) a far better looking car than the non-sport models. This in the main is why I bought one (a 2003 330Ci Sport) a few years ago.

I really tried to like the car. The performance was sufficient for my needs, it was reasonably economical, for a 3 litre, the level of specification was great, the colour (in and out) was very much to my taste. However, I found the ride was just too harsh for me on the roads local to me that I use regularly.

I mention the type of roads (in my case lots of rural A’s and B’s), as if you only really use motorways and DC’s, plus smooth A roads, the ride will probably be fine. I just found it too firm on the surfaces I frequent. Add to that the tramlining issues and it made for a not particularly relaxing drive.

You of course may not think the same, this was just my experience. Test drive one and try to get on a variety of different road surfaces and see what you think.
This /\ which is why i got rid of my 330ci and got a e90 330i. The other reason was i needed 4 doors, but i will say that the ride is alot better in the e90 than e46 and i live in a fairly rural area.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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philmots said:
My old 330 Sports were super-comfy.

I'd imagine they will have a better ride than an e90 on runflats
Driven both and thats my exact thoughts.

I owned my E46 for about 2 years, and i have done about 4000 miles in an E90 330 and about 3000 in a E90 330 auto.

I always thought the E46 was better then the E90. But I found the E46 very sensitive to tyre pressures.


Edited by Major Fallout on Tuesday 19th June 12:16

_bryan_

250 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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The problem with e46s is that most will be on tired dampers by now which makes an already stiff ride ten times worse. If you do go e46 get the dampers replaced, until I did mine I never believed it would make that much difference but it did.

Bryan.

ajb85

1,124 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I don't think the ride on the Sport will be as jarring as you're imagining it to be, it's still very refined and compliant. Once you've driven a Sport, the SEs feel 'woolly' in comparison. Sometimes it feels as if the car is looking for potholes, but the pay-off is superb grip and a very engaging drive, all thanks to some trickery with the dampers.

alienmuppet

Original Poster:

78 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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Okay thanks guys :-)

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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alienmuppet said:
Hi,
I've lowered my sites a bit from an E90 M Sport to an E46 (M?) Sport. I've test driven an E90 M Sport and to my surprise it was much more comfy than some had led me to believe even on runflats. I think they were 18" wheels too. In fact I thought the ride was really nice.

Now I'm looking at an E46, and I'm wondering how much worse the ride will be if I go for a sport. I prefer the look of the sport, but don't want my to get out of the car and be bruised all over ;-) If I stick non run flats on surely it won't be that far from a E90 with run flats? The one I'm looking at does have 18" wheels unfortunately. I imagine 17" wheels with normal rubber would be the most comfortable.

Anyone had much experience with this? I obviously need to take a test drive, but it's hard for me to go trekking everywhere at the minute with no car :-(

It's either this, or my fallback plan... an "exciting" Ford Focus :-( This was almost my default choice after realising buying an E90 would break the bank a little, even a 2006 model.

Cheers.
BMW must have sold millions of sport suspension equipped cars. They are perfectly fine for normal road use - ok some people won't like the ride. But it's not going to be unusable at any rate.

The roads you test drive on will also have a huge bearing. I can, and have driven my sports car for 100's of miles without issue with the hard ride, but they were good roads. However a 2 min ride from the train station into town highlights how hard riding it is and how it doesn't like pot holes and broken pavement.

falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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NelsonR32 said:
Took a while to get used to the ride on my E46 Sport but it's livable now. What angers me more is the tramlining due to the mismatched tyres.
Is it mismatched tyres though? I was doing my entire commute when I had my 330d sport and had to become a middle lane driver!! I thought it was tyres but when I replaced the tyres it still did it. I just put it down to the track being exactly the same as the truck tyre grooves.
I would have kept that a lot longer if it wasn't for that.

toon10

6,929 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I have the E90 mSport and my mate has the E46 sport. Mine handled better and was more sharp on run flats but speed bumps were rediculous on them. I'm on normal tyres now and the ride is spot on. There's a little more flex in the tyres under hard cornering but it's still good. The E46 is pretty much the same to be honest.

alienmuppet

Original Poster:

78 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I think my plan is, E46, good non-run-flat tyres, refresh bushes and dampers if need be (anything else I should check?), then probably fine. I'll probably upgrade to E90 in a year or 2. I do 15K miles a year, and I think an E46 will keep me more entertained than a focus or similar!

liller

1,151 posts

189 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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I have a 2002 330ci sport and expected it to be a firm ride...a bit like a 2003 mini I had once which had run flats and 18" wheels.

The 330ci is no where near as firm as that. I put it down to the lack of run flats.

In a nutshell, It's really not that firm at all.

T16OLE

2,964 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th June 2012
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alienmuppet said:
I think my plan is, E46, good non-run-flat tyres, refresh bushes and dampers if need be (anything else I should check?), then probably fine. I'll probably upgrade to E90 in a year or 2. I do 15K miles a year, and I think an E46 will keep me more entertained than a focus or similar!
I think, there is a lot to say about a suspension refresh, I have a 330ci Sport and it is a bit crashy, but its 11 years old and has 160k on it