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Phooey

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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991 C2S's vs 997 C2S's on the PAUCL

Henry-F

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275 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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I'm sure to someone this means something.

Move to Computer section possibly ?

H.

VerySideways

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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SFO

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213 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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simple really, 47 991C2S on sale and 63 997C2S on sale at UK OPCs

Ian_UK1

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224 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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SFO said:
simple really, 47 991C2S on sale and 63 997C2S on sale at UK OPCs
From which we draw what conclusion...? confused



(Apart from 'people can't get rid of 991s fast enough') biggrin

MrTickle

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269 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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Phooey said:
991 C2S's vs 997 C2S's on the PAUCL
Wow, well it surprises me. Not even 1 year in to the 991??

Guess lots of ex-demos.

Phooey

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Henry-F said:
I'm sure to someone this means something.
Yes. Where the F are all the 'bread an butter' 997 C2S's Henry? Only 2.4 per OPC. Main dealers short of good stock?

BnB

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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Ian_UK1 said:
From which we draw what conclusion...? confused



(Apart from 'people can't get rid of 991s fast enough') biggrin
Since over a third are officially listed as demonstrators, and another third who, by the mileage quoted, look like demonstrators that have been just been de-designated, and the final third look like the tranche of cars dealers were forced by Porsche to register in December 2011, I would suggest it's mostly the dealers who can't get rid of 'em.

That car listed at £84950 at Leeds OPC is an absolute belter. I've driven it. And if I weren't planning something different I'd have their hand off. Some good deals for someone methinks. As long as you don't mind having a 2011 launch car.

Blue62

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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BnB said:
Since over a third are officially listed as demonstrators, and another third who, by the mileage quoted, look like demonstrators that have been just been de-designated, and the final third look like the tranche of cars dealers were forced by Porsche to register in December 2011, I would suggest it's mostly the dealers who can't get rid of 'em.

That car listed at £84950 at Leeds OPC is an absolute belter. I've driven it. And if I weren't planning something different I'd have their hand off. Some good deals for someone methinks. As long as you don't mind having a 2011 launch car.
I looked at that one too BnB, but it was up at £89500 only a few weeks ago. I got a brand new car with a very similar spec (not quite as laden) for the same money, but there are some cracking deals for what I consider to be a cracking car.

BnB

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Blue62 said:
I looked at that one too BnB, but it was up at £89500 only a few weeks ago. I got a brand new car with a very similar spec (not quite as laden) for the same money, but there are some cracking deals for what I consider to be a cracking car.
Yeah. I wanted a brand new one too. And to my own peculiar taste, having taken a dealer (poverty-) speced car the previous purchase. And yes, I got a satisfactory deal by way of good trade in.

I liked the combination of PDCC and SPASM on the Leeds car. I've driven four 991s and this was the best by some margin.

Henry-F

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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Phooey said:
Yes. Where the F are all the 'bread an butter' 997 C2S's Henry? Only 2.4 per OPC. Main dealers short of good stock?
I think everyone is short of good stock at the moment. I'd be up for 20 decent cars today if I could find them !

Henry smile

Phooey

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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Henry-F said:
I think everyone is short of good stock at the moment

Henry smile
It certainly seems that way - especially with regards to the 997. To further refine the above, there are only *34* 997 C2S coupes in the approved Porsche stock. Only 18 of those are manual. Only 4 have Sports exhaust. Are people holding onto their cars for longer, or is good stock selling before it's advertised?

BnB

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Phooey said:
It certainly seems that way - especially with regards to the 997. To further refine the above, there are only *34* 997 C2S coupes in the approved Porsche stock. Only 18 of those are manual. Only 4 have Sports exhaust. Are people holding onto their cars for longer, or is good stock selling before it's advertised?
The number of available used 997s has a clear (and, if I remember my GCSE Maths correctly, inversely proportional) relationship to the number of unsold 991s. Dealers were fighting like crazy for my GTS as long as they could offload a 991, even if not a stock car.

Blue62

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BnB said:
The number of available used 997s has a clear (and, if I remember my GCSE Maths correctly, inversely proportional) relationship to the number of unsold 991s. Dealers were fighting like crazy for my GTS as long as they could offload a 991, even if not a stock car.
I'd have to agree with that, maybe there are some big incentives and I'm sure Porsche want to see more 991's on the road, in my neck of the woods I have only seen a handful since launch!

Ian_UK1

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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Phooey said:
It certainly seems that way - especially with regards to the 997. To further refine the above, there are only *34* 997 C2S coupes in the approved Porsche stock. Only 18 of those are manual. Only 4 have Sports exhaust. Are people holding onto their cars for longer, or is good stock selling before it's advertised?
Do you know how many are Gen-2s? My local OPC recently told me they had no Gen-2s whatsoever and were very keen to get their hands on my car. Their tune changed a bit when it came to cutting me a good deal on a 997 GT3.2 they had in stock though. Needless to say I didn't do a deal with them.

I'm wondering if the prices of the Gen-2 might harden quite a lot in the near future. Inexpensive relative to the 991, relatively rare (compared to the 997 Gen-1) and most of the Gen-1's potential faults engineered-out.

Diesel130

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Blue62 said:
I'd have to agree with that, maybe there are some big incentives and I'm sure Porsche want to see more 991's on the road, in my neck of the woods I have only seen a handful since launch!
Try living in Suffolk.. I've yet to see a single 991 in real life. Mind you, I'm off to Zurich in a couple of weeks, which is normally swarming with Porsches.

Phooey

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Ian_UK1 said:
Do you know how many are Gen-2s? My local OPC recently told me they had no Gen-2s whatsoever and were very keen to get their hands on my car
Of the 34 - it looks like 22 are gen2's - and 12 of them are PDK. That's less than 1 gen2 car per OPC. Anyone after a specific car ie C2S coupe/black/black/PDK/SC/PSE with 2 years warranty etc is going to find it tough. And as a result, I would imagine prices are quite solid on the gen2, and should remain so for another year at least imo.