Taking my niece on holiday... Can I?
Taking my niece on holiday... Can I?
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Pulse

Original Poster:

10,922 posts

249 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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My sister would like me to take my niece with us when we go to Amsterdam to visit friends later this year. The question is, are we allowed?

She's 18 months old, and has her own passport.

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Why would you not be? Would the father object?

ClaphamGT3

12,247 posts

274 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Last time I looked it was a free country (despite the best efforts of 13 years under the Blair/Broonite junta)

Pulse

Original Poster:

10,922 posts

249 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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No no, her and my brother-in-law are together still! hehe

I just wanted to check before we book tickets, etc! Thanks both!

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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You can get questioned, I travelled with my twins to Disney paris and I was stopped at passport control and questioned, going out both from the UK and from France, no big problem as the kids where 6 and spoke to the officers themselves, but could be a problem with a baby,
The worry was if you where taking the kids and were seperated.

Puggit

49,822 posts

279 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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When my in-laws brought our kids out to our French house (we went over early to sign for the house and start work) we provided written documentation explaining their relationship to the kids and that they had our permission to travel with them.

Completely pointless of course, as anyone could mock something up!

rpguk

4,520 posts

315 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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I have friends who sometimes their grandson away. He has a different surname and they've been questioned before. However they carry copies of both parents passports and a letter from the parents confirming they can travel with him and inviting a telephone call from anyone who might wish to question the matter further.

So far it's worked. However I suspect the behaviour you display with any officials who question you will be the key to how the situation unfolds.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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If the surname on her passport is different from either of yours, you had best get a letter from your sister authorising her to travel with you, with all relevant contact details. Otherwise you may get questioned to ensure that you are not kidnapping/child trafficking.

The big question, however, is why would you want to do this? The child will remember nothing of the trip and will be seriously hard work to look after. Take your sister with you by all means, but carting a small child + small child's kit + keeping small child entertained on a long trip when "mummy" is not there will be a serious headache. Rather you than me.

Rotaree

1,241 posts

292 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Why on earth would you do this?

Cheib

25,445 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Bluebarge said:
If the surname on her passport is different from either of yours, you had best get a letter from your sister authorising her to travel with you, with all relevant contact details. Otherwise you may get questioned to ensure that you are not kidnapping/child trafficking.

The big question, however, is why would you want to do this? The child will remember nothing of the trip and will be seriously hard work to look after. Take your sister with you by all means, but carting a small child + small child's kit + keeping small child entertained on a long trip when "mummy" is not there will be a serious headache. Rather you than me.
Indeed. Though I can see why Mummy would like the idea wink

Travelling with small kids is for the insane as far as I'm concerned.

LaserTam

2,183 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Rotaree said:
Why on earth would you do this?
^ This.

andysgriff

913 posts

291 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Is there any reason on earth why you would do this?

iphonedyou

10,422 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the friends OP is going to see might like to meet / see the child. That's certainly how the question reads.

smile

Blown2CV

31,662 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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you have every likelihood of being stopped at customs as an indirect relative. It happened to someone I know!

dhariwab

643 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Bluebarge said:
If the surname on her passport is different from either of yours, you had best get a letter from your sister authorising her to travel with you, with all relevant contact details. Otherwise you may get questioned to ensure that you are not kidnapping/child trafficking.
Absolutely make sure you do this. The immigration people at Schipol airport were refusing to let us board the flight back to Birmingham because my son didn't have the same surname as me (long story why, not going into detail here). We were taken into their office and quizzed by three immigration/police people who let us board eventually.