Zenith- Talk to me!
Discussion
In particular if you know about this Pilot model from the 70's that I picked up last week-
It says Surf Stainless Steel on the back (which may mean it's water resistant?) and has a reference of 01-0030-382, which appears to be the model number and not the serial as it is not unique (I googled and found a question about an identical item on WUS with precisely no replies, TZ has proved pretty fruitless too).
In the absence of my case back opener I will struggle to get a serial, but does anyone know anything about it!?
Timekeeping is quite astonishing, I'm led to believe it's not been wound for over 20 years, and it's keeping around 2- 3 seconds per day!
It says Surf Stainless Steel on the back (which may mean it's water resistant?) and has a reference of 01-0030-382, which appears to be the model number and not the serial as it is not unique (I googled and found a question about an identical item on WUS with precisely no replies, TZ has proved pretty fruitless too).
In the absence of my case back opener I will struggle to get a serial, but does anyone know anything about it!?
Timekeeping is quite astonishing, I'm led to believe it's not been wound for over 20 years, and it's keeping around 2- 3 seconds per day!
2572PC Movement, early to mid-70s - not a lot apart from that except they came with smokey, blue and silver dials.
You should be able to search better with the movement number, here are a few more interesting comments from richter -
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/zenith-modell-pil...
A Scania version -
http://www.mateuroiswatchesplace.com/watches/zenit... (Your back should be the same except for the lorry references!)
http://www.bachecabakeca.com/10/annunci_gratis/3_C... although your case is a bit different I think, but just a variation probably...
You should be able to search better with the movement number, here are a few more interesting comments from richter -
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/zenith-modell-pil...
A Scania version -
http://www.mateuroiswatchesplace.com/watches/zenit... (Your back should be the same except for the lorry references!)
http://www.bachecabakeca.com/10/annunci_gratis/3_C... although your case is a bit different I think, but just a variation probably...
Edited by andy_s on Monday 25th June 22:59
andy_s said:
eccles said:
DS3R said:
Awesomes, thank you!
Will get a movement ref but it's nice to know it has a "real" Zenith movement in it
But don't be suprised if it says Movado on it! Will get a movement ref but it's nice to know it has a "real" Zenith movement in it
I'll take it along to Rocco at the WatchWorks soon to pop it open if I can't find me tools soon,
The seller also has one they're not letting go of just yet in a very similar style, but automatic, with an almost hexagonal face, with the crown at the weirdest position tucked on the bottom right lug. Sadly I can't find a picture, or convince them to sell.
But I'll work on it
I do now know this one is at least 1972 (the square logo came in then when the Zenith Electronics Corporation took over Zenith) and that the model ending -382 does indeed indicate a 2572 movement, but a "C" as it's a manual winder (the not-for-sale one is a -380 auto with date so should be a "PC"), and as Zenith used ETA's from 1975- 85 for chronos and from 75 until 1994 for non-chronos, I do have only a 3 year window to date it now, which hopefully will be narrowed by flipping off the back.
Oh, and Surf does mean water resistant, they state "subsea" if they mean 200M+ of protection.
Thanks all- detective work is getting me there!
The seller also has one they're not letting go of just yet in a very similar style, but automatic, with an almost hexagonal face, with the crown at the weirdest position tucked on the bottom right lug. Sadly I can't find a picture, or convince them to sell.
But I'll work on it
I do now know this one is at least 1972 (the square logo came in then when the Zenith Electronics Corporation took over Zenith) and that the model ending -382 does indeed indicate a 2572 movement, but a "C" as it's a manual winder (the not-for-sale one is a -380 auto with date so should be a "PC"), and as Zenith used ETA's from 1975- 85 for chronos and from 75 until 1994 for non-chronos, I do have only a 3 year window to date it now, which hopefully will be narrowed by flipping off the back.
Oh, and Surf does mean water resistant, they state "subsea" if they mean 200M+ of protection.
Thanks all- detective work is getting me there!
Edited by DS3R on Wednesday 27th June 21:57
Oh yeah.........
http://www.bachecabakeca.com/10/annunci_gratis/3_C...
was what made me say PC/auto...
http://www.bachecabakeca.com/10/annunci_gratis/3_C...
was what made me say PC/auto...
Edited by andy_s on Thursday 28th June 00:40
DS3R said:
The seller also has one they're not letting go of just yet in a very similar style, but automatic, with an almost hexagonal face, with the crown at the weirdest position tucked on the bottom right lug. Sadly I can't find a picture, or convince them to sell.
That sounds like a Defy, they're lovely watches and the ones with the crown at 4 o'clock are less common than the ones with the crown at 3 eccles said:
That sounds like a Defy, they're lovely watches and the ones with the crown at 4 o'clock are less common than the ones with the crown at 3
It could well be- I was more interested in the case than the face. I took the Pilot as part of a group of three, and while the Zenith is away the Oriosa is getting a lot of wrist time!
Edited by DS3R on Friday 29th June 21:41
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