Insurance for track laps
Insurance for track laps
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Wbeest

Original Poster:

16 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Anyone have any suggestions for cover for the Sat morning track time ONLY? My insurer, Mannings, won't cover it, citing that its not a properly organised track event, i.e. not properly controlled. Or are people just not bothering?

Thanks,


Rob

Mark B

1,671 posts

294 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I've never bothered. It's not a track day, it's supposed to be a convoy around the circuit.

Having said that, I maxed the Elise on the Mulsanne and know others were travelling faster smile

The driving is 'interesting' often described as wacky racers, so I wouldn't and hanven't ever worried... Unless of course you are an awful driver and cannot remember where the circuit goes with a magnetism for gravel traps or armco.. but then if that's the case, I wouldn't bother doing them wink


allojon

282 posts

220 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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It's uninsurable which is why I won't do it. It's not my driving I'm worried about, it's everybody elses.

Bolognese

1,500 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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How do you go about getting on the laps?

56Lotus

241 posts

183 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Just spoke to my insurers (Hagerty) who do not cover the parade laps. I’m also worried about others getting over enthusiastic. Any ideas for one day cover?

Mk2Ed

50 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Try these guys, I normally insure for trackdays and Nurburgring: https://www.hertsinsurance.com/trackdays.php







Andy Pandie

1,165 posts

238 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Either this company http://www.moris.co.uk/ or this one http://www.competition-car-insurance.co.uk/ have been used by our guys who couldn't get cover from their normal insurance, me included even though I have track days included confused

It's not cheap, but guess it's how deep your pockets are or how much you value your car wink

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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In a road car it isn't a difficult track to drive as long as you stay within your personal limits. There are some bends that are unforgiving, like Tertre Rouge where there is only cold steel to greet you, but I've done it a number of times and no worries. Anyway, you are driving on a public road aren't you whistle

allojon

282 posts

220 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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It may not be difficult to drive but it is crammed full of cars, is it something like 200 for the Saturday morning laps? Don't tell me there aren't going to be some who can resist a bit of Le Mans racing. Suggesting it's a normal road to an insurance company won't match with the police report which you need to obtain in case of accident will state different. Surely the car club or tour operator who has offered you these laps must have covered the insurance side? Bit remiss of them if not...?

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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I've had one accident in the last ten years (2006), when a Clio Williams coming the other way cut the corner and forced me off the road to avoid a head-on. My classic insurers did not ask for a police report. Perhaps I'm out of date though.

DS240

5,651 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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Minor contact and possibly with just a minor injury, there would not be a police report. It is a closed road and therefore no traffic rules are likely to apply. Therefore no police involvement. Death or serious injury may be a different situation.

That may obviously lead to the question of why no police involvement and then declaring exactly what happened though.

Having a ding with the Armco, then limping off track to the nearest ditch or tree then reporting that as the accident (as happens at the ring) is a major no no. Jail time.

Looby Loo

188 posts

222 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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allojon said:
Surely the car club or tour operator who has offered you these laps must have covered the insurance side? Bit remiss of them if not...?
These laps are classed as parade laps and therefore it is up to the individual to make sure that their car is insured should God forbid anything happen. The only rule with the parade laps is that you can't overtake the pace car.

Personally I would prefer to insure our pride and joy than take any risks. Just my opinion.

R-Racer

119 posts

224 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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Competition Car Insurance are covering me for the Parade Laps. The Clock Is Ticking.........

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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R-Racer said:
Competition Car Insurance are covering me for the Parade Laps. The Clock Is Ticking.........
How much roughly mate? Waiting for a call from them.

Hormone

823 posts

266 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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ShiDevil said:
How much roughly mate? Waiting for a call from them.
I would like toknow this too. As they have quoted for others they wll be aware of the event so another quote should be simple.

Cheers.

Brian

rlw

3,583 posts

266 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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I imagine that whatever cover you find, it is only going to cover your dmage to your car and not what someone else might do. You also sign a waiver, I recall, to say that you accept al the risk and that you won't seek redress from any third party. You will be very lucky to win a claim against a third party in an English court too, as has been demonstrated in the past.

Just do it, drive sensibly and stay out of trouble - its just like driving on an ordinary road but a bit quicker and with no-one coming the other way.


DonkeyApple

69,557 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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R-Racer said:
Competition Car Insurance are covering me for the Parade Laps. The Clock Is Ticking.........
Gave up trying to talk to those punters. Filled out a form tried calling, left messages. Nothing.

Have a quote from MORIS it's £400. They won't return calls either.

Sod's Law is you get caught up in someone else's error and they haven't insurance so you end up having to go after them privately and seize assets etc. very messy.

Hormone

823 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Gave up trying to talk to those punters. Filled out a form tried calling, left messages. Nothing.

Have a quote from MORIS it's £400. They won't return calls either.

Sod's Law is you get caught up in someone else's error and they haven't insurance so you end up having to go after them privately and seize assets etc. very messy.
I think the advice above is best. I am in a 1978 Taimar, probably with my 14 yr old daughter so won't be setting any records anyway but it is the guy who thinks he's trying out for next years 24 hr that worries me.

Anyway packing to do!

DonkeyApple

69,557 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Hormone said:
I think the advice above is best. I am in a 1978 Taimar, probably with my 14 yr old daughter so won't be setting any records anyway but it is the guy who thinks he's trying out for next years 24 hr that worries me.

Anyway packing to do!
There's nearly always someone who seems to lose the plot a bit and on most occasions you can stay clear but basically you are insuring against that fluke occurance when you are involved.

Proving liability is very expensive and the simple fact is that very few people have the assets once they are forced to cash everything in to even cover the legal side of your expense let alone the damage done in the first instance.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Proving liability is very expensive ...
Why would you need to even try that?