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According to a report in a local paper, the Labour administration in Edinburgh are planning to make 22 Sept a car free day in part of the city centre.
As the band Travis said:
Here's what I'm going to do,
I going to buy a gun,
going to shoot everything everyone,
because it was you that drove me to........
As the band Travis said:
Here's what I'm going to do,
I going to buy a gun,
going to shoot everything everyone,
because it was you that drove me to........
If there was a REAL alternative to the car that people actually wanted to use, then there would already be car-free city centres....and less revenue for government and higher unemployment as a result of the motor industry crashing to the deck. This is just another weak attempt to appeal to the enviro-lobby at the expence of the 'demon' motorist. It would be political suicide for any government to ban the use of the car or to price the driver out of his car as there's valuable tax income, jobs and votes involved.
Looks like its a europe wide thing www.22september.org/
At least its on a Sunday this year, and there is plenty of time between now and then you get your bike license
At least its on a Sunday this year, and there is plenty of time between now and then you get your bike license
right off!Dave, they've been talking about trams for bleeding years - the "City Plan" has had airport links, south circular rail lines, trams, light rail solutions etc as a "high priority" for the last 20 years.... only one problem - no one's willing to put their money where their mouth is.
Take the south circular rail line - all the rail lines still exist - currently used as a "Goods" only line, runs from Waverley to Haymarket, all the central platforms and stairs are still in situ - goes through most of the southside of the city - Newington etc would be jam packed by commuters if reinstigated and take a big load off the New Town in terms of development, housing etc in the medium term let alone car usage in the Southside.
Why hasn't it been done??...... because five years ago or so, they couldn't raise a poxy 23 million for the rolling stock........
Arseholes
(you can tell I don't feel strongly about it)
Take the south circular rail line - all the rail lines still exist - currently used as a "Goods" only line, runs from Waverley to Haymarket, all the central platforms and stairs are still in situ - goes through most of the southside of the city - Newington etc would be jam packed by commuters if reinstigated and take a big load off the New Town in terms of development, housing etc in the medium term let alone car usage in the Southside.
Why hasn't it been done??...... because five years ago or so, they couldn't raise a poxy 23 million for the rolling stock........
Arseholes
(you can tell I don't feel strongly about it)
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How can they do that - thought you had to get an act of parliament to close a road??? So if anyone tries to stop you, ask to see the relevant act, in duplicate, before you take any notice of the twats.
Only for a permanent closure, and then (I think) only needs to be the requivalent of an act by the local authority.
Temp closure can be done with 28 days' notice, subject to approval by local authority (but by officers not councillors) or less if it's only for short term eg less than 5 days.
28 days is about right (6 weeks usually by the time paperwork is passed about) and it's dead easy. Councillors never even see the ones we use when closing the road for bridge works. And can be done for much longer than 5 days.
If 'they' tried such a foolish idea (I could rant about how foolish, but won't this time), would be worth checking that they have done all the paperwork, and posted the required notices etc. Some of these Council workers are right slackers you know
Cheers, Phil
If 'they' tried such a foolish idea (I could rant about how foolish, but won't this time), would be worth checking that they have done all the paperwork, and posted the required notices etc. Some of these Council workers are right slackers you know
Cheers, Phil
Just had a quick scan through via website posted and found:
www.local-transport.dtlr.gov.uk/eurocar/index.htm
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Public support levels - In Town, Without My Car! is supported by most Londoners: A poll by MORI for the Evening Standard in April 2000 showed that 57% of Londoners would support a campaign to ban all cars from central London on one day a year (35% against; 9% don't know).
Thats it then, let's base the policy for the whole sodding country on one poll in the particularly crowded capital city (that has probably the best 'alternative' transport system in the country).
I was all relaxed this steady Friday afternoon - not now.
Cheers, Phil
www.local-transport.dtlr.gov.uk/eurocar/index.htm
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Public support levels - In Town, Without My Car! is supported by most Londoners: A poll by MORI for the Evening Standard in April 2000 showed that 57% of Londoners would support a campaign to ban all cars from central London on one day a year (35% against; 9% don't know).
Thats it then, let's base the policy for the whole sodding country on one poll in the particularly crowded capital city (that has probably the best 'alternative' transport system in the country).
I was all relaxed this steady Friday afternoon - not now.
Cheers, Phil
All you've got to do is blackball car free zones: retailers will feel the squeeze and take active part against these car free days. (It's the retailers the cars are driving to)
Meanwhile you get your sponges and spanners out to work something on your car: 'car free'
- or take a spin around countryside: no numpties on the road driving to zones that are car free. 
Meanwhile you get your sponges and spanners out to work something on your car: 'car free'
- or take a spin around countryside: no numpties on the road driving to zones that are car free. 
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According to a report in a local paper, the Labour administration in Edinburgh are planning to make 22 Sept a car free day in part of the city centre.
In the Scotland on Sunday today, proposals for congestion charging in Edinburgh. Two cordons, one round the city bypass, one round the city centre. Cross either, in an inward direction, in any day, and pay £2.
Fcukwits. Traders are already up in arms.
So if I go from my house, out to an out-of-city shopping centre, and back home, I pay £2? Whats the sodding council tax for then?
>> Edited by Neil Menzies on Sunday 9th June 13:44
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