Meat snob
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simonrockman

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7,109 posts

283 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I'm a meat snob. I'm very fuss about butchers, my favourite was Meat City in Smithfield, but a few years ago the butcher, Nigel, who was a lay preacher went off to join the church. This was a great loss, he knew his meat and had visited most of the farms he sold produce from. I also like Graham's in East End Road, Finchley which is a small family butcher, but I've got past some of my snobbishness about only using small independents. Costco meat is great, and not just the expensive cuts. Tonight I roasted a chicken, it was pretty much the cheapest thing they had - something like a fiver for two chickens - and it was amazing. Soft, juicy and flavoursome.

Simon

cqueen

2,645 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Cant beat thick cut bacon & sausages from the butcher, nom nom.

0a

24,132 posts

222 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Ask the butcher for cuts he'd recommend, I get some weird but delicious casserole meat from an average butcher - they keep it for themselves otherwise.

lockhart flawse

2,101 posts

263 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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There are two factors that will determine the quality of your meat:

1)The quality of the animal it came from and how long it was aged (carcass left hanging in the chiller before butchering).

2)How you store it and prepare it.

I think you are talking about point one really. So you need to find a butcher that sells properly aged meat, 21-28 days ideally. The average supermarket and butcher will have meat that is probably only "aged" for a couple of days because during the period it is ageing it's losing weight and tying up cash. Then choose your cut; the more work the muscle does the more connective tissue it will contain (which makes it tough at worst or chewy at best) and the longer you will need to cook it. So shin/shank plus cuts from the forequarter are generally tough whilst the fillet which does very little is the most tender.

HTH

L.F.

mcflurry

9,187 posts

281 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Jamie Oliver's butcher in One New Change seems to follow a similar ethos in my experience smile


LordGrover

34,140 posts

240 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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lockhart flawse said:
There are two factors that will determine the quality of your meat:

1)The quality of the animal it came from and how long it was aged (carcass left hanging in the chiller before butchering).

2)How you store it and prepare it.
That's three. Or the first part of one is essential, the other two may improve lesser quality meat too.
Being a pukka snob, I try to use only grass fed meats, especially beef. It's far superior to any other beef I've yet tried. Luckily, I have a farm locally which specializes in it. wink

Cheib

25,340 posts

203 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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The best terra firma butcher I have come across in London is Lidgate but it's reassuringly expensive

http://www.lidgates.com/index.asp

We used to get the beef we had every Christmas there, absolutely delicious.

I heard about the East London Steak Co about a year ago and am very imprssed with the quality of their beef and also the customer service..t.hey've started doing Pork and Lamb now but haven't tried that.

http://www.eastlondonsteak.co.uk/


Digger

16,769 posts

219 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Thanks for that Cheib. Lidgates is quite close to me so i might just pop in there before they shut. Those pies look good!

Sonic

4,008 posts

235 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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I get told the same thing... i never have any problem finding people to attend my BBQ's though funnily enough!

cqueen said:
Cant beat thick cut bacon & sausages from the butcher, nom nom.
yes

Kermit power

29,622 posts

241 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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lockhart flawse said:
Then choose your cut; the more work the muscle does the more connective tissue it will contain (which makes it tough at worst or chewy at best) and the longer you will need to cook it. So shin/shank plus cuts from the forequarter are generally tough whilst the fillet which does very little is the most tender.
If you think shin or shanks are tough at worst or chewy at best, then you've obviously never had it cooked for you by someone with the slightest idea what they're doing!

Both cuts, properly cooked (very low temperature for a very long time - several hours) make for some of the tenderest, most wonderful, falling apart meat you can get off the animal.

Pixelpeep

8,862 posts

170 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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i thought this was gonna be a story about a girl you met in a pub..

Changedmyname

12,549 posts

209 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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I know nothing about "Meat",because I have only been a butcher for 38 years.

That's all.

pointedstarman

554 posts

174 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Best butcher I've ever known is Humphreys near Great Leighs in Essex. The butchers is actually an offshoot of the abatoir business on the same site and prices are good as a result. They hang meat on the carcass for 4-6 weeks, cure their own bacon properly rather than the 'cure in the morning, sell in the afternnon' method used by supermarkets and they sell great haslett.

On one occasion I was next to a customer who wanting oxtail and, as they had none in the fridge, the butcher stolled across the yard and came back with a tail that he could still make twitch. On another occassion an elderly couple asked for a pigs head and the butcher obliged with one and charged £1!!

I live a couple of miles away and wouldn't buy meat anywhere else.