RE: New Model for Porsche?
Friday 6th August 2004
New Model for Porsche?
Production decision will be made next year
Porsche's boss man Wendelin Wiedeking told a German newspaper last week that a decision on a new model in Porsche's range won't be made until 2005.
The new car which may well be the 4 door sportscar that has been rumoured for many years wouldn't make production until 2009 even if it gets the go ahead next year.
Discussion
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So true: 928 update, but not too much. Cayenne V8 in. 400-500 hp
Would be a mega-hit.
So true: 928 update, but not too much. Cayenne V8 in. 400-500 hp
Would be a mega-hit.
RobDickinson said:
um...
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=48&h=&t=93463
That's just somethng the editor's 12 year old kid knocked together on photopaint. Entirely false.
Let's hope Porsche board of director's doesn't make another decision like the Cayenne, or they may find themselves in a position where they're going to watch decisions in the future made by Ford executives.
The Cayenne looks like a carp. It weighs 5300 pounds, and this is from a company who's heritage and history is based on light weight small engine cars that served as the "giant killer". The Cayenne is a whore for the profit.
The Porsche philosophy "forget the unnecessary" was tossed to the wind, and now we see bright metal inserts on the steering wheel, and a "wretched excess" in every area.
Porsche didn't understand what it would take to service a SUV in a competitive market. The product put them third from the bottom in the 2004 JD Power IQS, and the reputation of the vehicle has driven a lot of people to make a different choice (like me). I paid the bucks for a Porsche, but I chose a different vehicle. I have three Porsches in the driveway, and would have loved another one, but I didn't have any pride in the Cayenne, and with all the problems, sheesh, why???? I bought a Range Rover.
Dogsharks
The Cayenne looks like a carp. It weighs 5300 pounds, and this is from a company who's heritage and history is based on light weight small engine cars that served as the "giant killer". The Cayenne is a whore for the profit.
The Porsche philosophy "forget the unnecessary" was tossed to the wind, and now we see bright metal inserts on the steering wheel, and a "wretched excess" in every area.
Porsche didn't understand what it would take to service a SUV in a competitive market. The product put them third from the bottom in the 2004 JD Power IQS, and the reputation of the vehicle has driven a lot of people to make a different choice (like me). I paid the bucks for a Porsche, but I chose a different vehicle. I have three Porsches in the driveway, and would have loved another one, but I didn't have any pride in the Cayenne, and with all the problems, sheesh, why???? I bought a Range Rover.
Dogsharks
dogsharks said:
The Cayenne looks like crap. It weighs 5300 pounds, and this is from a company who's heritage and history is based on light weight small engine cars ( . . . ) The Cayenne is a whore for the profit.
( . . . ) I bought a Range Rover.
Dogsharks
I see more Cayennes than 911s, up here in the country . . . Butt ugly but I guess they are cash cows. Cows indeed.
Dunno if a RR is any better choice. X5?
Lightweight is a word from the past I guess . . . Sad but true . . .
dogsharks said:
Let's hope Porsche board of director's doesn't make another decision like the Cayenne, or they may find themselves in a position where they're going to watch decisions in the future made by Ford executives.
The Cayenne looks like a carp. It weighs 5300 pounds, and this is from a company who's heritage and history is based on light weight small engine cars that served as the "giant killer". The Cayenne is a whore for the profit.
The Porsche philosophy "forget the unnecessary" was tossed to the wind, and now we see bright metal inserts on the steering wheel, and a "wretched excess" in every area.
Porsche didn't understand what it would take to service a SUV in a competitive market. The product put them third from the bottom in the 2004 JD Power IQS, and the reputation of the vehicle has driven a lot of people to make a different choice (like me). I paid the bucks for a Porsche, but I chose a different vehicle. I have three Porsches in the driveway, and would have loved another one, but I didn't have any pride in the Cayenne, and with all the problems, sheesh, why???? I bought a Range Rover.
Dogsharks
dogsharks, sorry to butt in but you are sooooo wrong. Porsche would not last without the Cayenne. The Cayenne is a winner. Look at the sales figures, you say yourself you see them everywhere... Porsche needs money to survive as a car builder of niche products. Surely you can realise that funds to remain independant and designing 911's is a good thing.
This story was out in Handelsblatt (german newspaper) last week.
"Porsche & VW may cooperate on a development of a new car to compete with Mercedes E class.
The new vehicle called the C1 may be based on a sedan platform from VW's partner Maserati. Porsche would introduce it's model of the car in 2008, while VW will bring out it's version in 2007.
Porsche already have an idea of the model it may introduce as a 4th vehicle line and is waiting for the right market conditions, CEO Wiedeking said in June 2004."
"Porsche & VW may cooperate on a development of a new car to compete with Mercedes E class.
The new vehicle called the C1 may be based on a sedan platform from VW's partner Maserati. Porsche would introduce it's model of the car in 2008, while VW will bring out it's version in 2007.
Porsche already have an idea of the model it may introduce as a 4th vehicle line and is waiting for the right market conditions, CEO Wiedeking said in June 2004."
Much as I don't really like the idea of the Cayenne we have to remember that back in the 70's and 80's the then Porsche 'enthusiasts' were horrified when they started making 924s, 944's and 928s. Yet it was exactly by making those cars that Porsche is still with us (independantly) today.
As long as the cash from the Cayenne keeps the Boxster, 911 and 4th model firmly focussed as SPORTS CARS then I will be happy. Personally I think they should start making less, put the prices up and maintain some exclusivity. Modern Porsche are too common.
oh and
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>> Edited by diver944 on Thursday 19th August 16:30
As long as the cash from the Cayenne keeps the Boxster, 911 and 4th model firmly focussed as SPORTS CARS then I will be happy. Personally I think they should start making less, put the prices up and maintain some exclusivity. Modern Porsche are too common.
oh and
START RACING AGAIN FOR GAWDS SAKE >> Edited by diver944 on Thursday 19th August 16:30
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dogsharks, sorry to butt in but you are sooooo wrong. Porsche would not last without the Cayenne. The Cayenne is a winner. Look at the sales figures, you say yourself you see them everywhere... Porsche needs money to survive as a car builder of niche products. Surely you can realise that funds to remain independant and designing 911's is a good thing.[/quote]
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