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Simpo Two said:
What's 4 sigma in decimals?
A level of "five sigma" is required to claim a discovery, meaning there is less than a one in a million chance the data spike is down to a statistical flukeSix Sigma, which equates to 3.4 DPMO, or 99.9997% defect-free. Five Sigma = 233 DPMO, or 99.98% defect-free
Five Sigma = 233 DPMO, or 99.98% defect-free
Four Sigma = 6,210 DPMO, or 99.4% defect-free
Three Sigma = 66,807 DPMO, or 93.3% defect-free
Two Sigma = 308,538 DPMO, or 69.1% defect-free
One Sigma = 691,462 DPMO, or 30.9% defect-free
What is this 'twist'?
I was at CERN only a few weeks ago on a holiday trip. I was asking the tour guides various questions and they were adament they were close to confirmation. Well more an exlusion process rather than discovery process was the general theme I got. But as I'm not an expert in this field I could have misinterpreted it.
I was at CERN only a few weeks ago on a holiday trip. I was asking the tour guides various questions and they were adament they were close to confirmation. Well more an exlusion process rather than discovery process was the general theme I got. But as I'm not an expert in this field I could have misinterpreted it.
AJI said:
What is this 'twist'?
I was at CERN only a few weeks ago on a holiday trip. I was asking the tour guides various questions and they were adament they were close to confirmation. Well more an exlusion process rather than discovery process was the general theme I got. But as I'm not an expert in this field I could have misinterpreted it.
My guess... a new branch of science finally grasping the existence of a further dimension to account for the vast majority of mass that it is not accounted for by the Higgs.I was at CERN only a few weeks ago on a holiday trip. I was asking the tour guides various questions and they were adament they were close to confirmation. Well more an exlusion process rather than discovery process was the general theme I got. But as I'm not an expert in this field I could have misinterpreted it.
The Higgs as we now know it can't account for either 99% of mass nor any real account for gravity.
It is but a vague shadow of what it was hoped to be.
Whitefly Swatter said:
A level of "five sigma" is required to claim a discovery, meaning there is less than a one in a million chance the data spike is down to a statistical fluke
That's not quite right. It's one in a million chance that the results would be at this level or greater if the phenomenon were not to exist. It's a subtle, but important, difference.
hornet said:
If they find the Higgs, should they also start finding the lighter superpartners, or is that still beyond the capabilities of the LHC? My understanding was the LHC has yet to be properly turned up to eleven? Be interesting to see what they say!
I'm off to buy tinned beans and more ammo and timber for the doors and windows. I'm not getting caught out by the black hole or zombie apocalypse.
Strongest suggestion yet that CERN has something of note to disclose as Tevatron want a share of the publicity:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-co...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-co...
I hate it when the press gets hold of this as they always get it wrong.
Any Higgs presence will not solve mass, it 'may' solve rest mass of particles, but that is an insubstantial amount of overall mass.
It is nothing like any form whatsoever of a 'God' particle.
What it should do, with luck, is give us a number for a 'planckian type' of minimal rest-mass unit... effectively a further 'constant' and that is Physics is a big thing.
The thing is that particles should really have zero mass, but they don't... so our model falls apart rather disastrously, the Electron rest-mass may proven not to be fundamental and the Higgs mechanism causes such... this is good as the alternative is that each electron produces its own field giving itself a rest-mass through interaction of singular fields, this is a dreadful thought as in nature such profligate energy use is all wrong.
Any Higgs presence will not solve mass, it 'may' solve rest mass of particles, but that is an insubstantial amount of overall mass.
It is nothing like any form whatsoever of a 'God' particle.
What it should do, with luck, is give us a number for a 'planckian type' of minimal rest-mass unit... effectively a further 'constant' and that is Physics is a big thing.
The thing is that particles should really have zero mass, but they don't... so our model falls apart rather disastrously, the Electron rest-mass may proven not to be fundamental and the Higgs mechanism causes such... this is good as the alternative is that each electron produces its own field giving itself a rest-mass through interaction of singular fields, this is a dreadful thought as in nature such profligate energy use is all wrong.
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