Dealing with seller's is just as bad...
Dealing with seller's is just as bad...
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ali4390

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2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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I am absolutely fuming right now.

Went to look at a couple of cars at the weekend, one of which was a 6 hour round trip. The car was perfect for me though and we agreed on a price so I rang him later that night and said I'd have it. He was happy, I was happy, all was good.

So yesterday I transferred £10,000 into his account with the promise of the remaining £1600 to go in first thing this morning. He said that was fine and we had arranged collection for tomorrow night so I cancelled a work event, sorted out insurance, arranged for a lift (which involved my gf getting a train to Essex from Derby so she could drive me to collect it) and everything was looking good.

Until I got a text this morning that is. Not a phone call, oh no, a text. He told me that he has decided he doesn't need to sell the car but will ever so generously return me my money.

Why the fk do people put their cars up for sale if they then decide they don't want to sell it? Such a fking waste of time. And there is sweet fk all I can do about it.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
I am absolutely fuming right now.

Went to look at a couple of cars at the weekend, one of which was a 6 hour round trip. The car was perfect for me though and we agreed on a price so I rang him later that night and said I'd have it. He was happy, I was happy, all was good.

So yesterday I transferred £10,000 into his account with the promise of the remaining £1600 to go in first thing this morning. He said that was fine and we had arranged collection for tomorrow night so I cancelled a work event, sorted out insurance, arranged for a lift (which involved my gf getting a train to Essex from Derby so she could drive me to collect it) and everything was looking good.

Until I got a text this morning that is. Not a phone call, oh no, a text. He told me that he has decided he doesn't need to sell the car but will ever so generously return me my money.

Why the fk do people put their cars up for sale if they then decide they don't want to sell it? Such a fking waste of time. And there is sweet fk all I can do about it.
Sounds like a bummer. frown

Although I guess things to learn:

1. If you want to buy - buy. Don't do a 6 hour round trip to view, to then repeat it to collect later.

2. Don't be so trusting with your money or people. That seems a HUGE risk transferring that kind of money to a personal bank account.

3. If any money changes hands EVER, get a receipt for it there and then. Had you have done this then you'd own the car and if they changed their mind they would have to "buy" it back from you or else it would be theft.

ali4390

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2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Sounds like a bummer. frown

Although I guess things to learn:

1. If you want to buy - buy. Don't do a 6 hour round trip to view, to then repeat it to collect later.

2. Don't be so trusting with your money or people. That seems a HUGE risk transferring that kind of money to a personal bank account.

3. If any money changes hands EVER, get a receipt for it there and then. Had you have done this then you'd own the car and if they changed their mind they would have to "buy" it back from you or else it would be theft.
Unfortunately it was a last minute decision to view the car on Sunday and with banks being closed I couldn't withdraw cash so couldn't pay for the car then and there and therefore couldn't collect it.

He's already offered me the money and I know where he lives so I'm not concerned about not getting it back. I'm just fked off that he changed his mind and didn't even have the balls to tell me over the phone.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Sounds like breach of contract to me.. That is no justifiocation to change their mind.

Holeshot46

69 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Do let us know when you receive your money back! I'd be crapping myself right now!

All that jazz

7,632 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
I am absolutely fuming right now.

Went to look at a couple of cars at the weekend, one of which was a 6 hour round trip. The car was perfect for me though and we agreed on a price so I rang him later that night and said I'd have it. He was happy, I was happy, all was good.

So yesterday I transferred £10,000 into his account with the promise of the remaining £1600 to go in first thing this morning. He said that was fine and we had arranged collection for tomorrow night so I cancelled a work event, sorted out insurance, arranged for a lift (which involved my gf getting a train to Essex from Derby so she could drive me to collect it) and everything was looking good.

Until I got a text this morning that is. Not a phone call, oh no, a text. He told me that he has decided he doesn't need to sell the car but will ever so generously return me my money.

Why the fk do people put their cars up for sale if they then decide they don't want to sell it? Such a fking waste of time. And there is sweet fk all I can do about it.
Was it a Lupo GTI per chance?

I agree with you, there are some complete and utter time-wasting wkers out there.mad

ali4390

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2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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All that jazz said:
Was it a Lupo GTI per chance?

I agree with you, there are some complete and utter time-wasting wkers out there.mad
It wasn't no, what made you think that?

MattOz

3,995 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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I travelled 450 miles from my house to Aberdeen to buy an M3CS that had been described to me over the 'phone and also with numerous pics. I viewed the car and then travelled home the 450 miles from Aberdeen without it, as clearly it wasn't as described when seen in the metal. Still, you win some, you lose some. Was a hell of a long day mind you! biggrin

All that jazz

7,632 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
It wasn't no, what made you think that?
The linked thread reveals all. Long story short, another wker that had taken a deposit then changed his mind later leaving the buyer in the lurch. He came on here looking for approval and the thread didn't go too well for him.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
All that jazz said:
Was it a Lupo GTI per chance?

I agree with you, there are some complete and utter time-wasting wkers out there.mad
It wasn't no, what made you think that?
That thread came to my mind too. I hope the guy has the decency to at least refund some travel expenses.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
He's already offered me the money and I know where he lives so I'm not concerned about not getting it back. I'm just fked off that he changed his mind and didn't even have the balls to tell me over the phone.
Don't let him know how mad you are until you've received the money back. Remember, he hold the chips at the minute. However when you have the money, feel free to post him some dog doo.

jamoor

14,506 posts

235 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Sounds like a bummer. frown

Although I guess things to learn:

1. If you want to buy - buy. Don't do a 6 hour round trip to view, to then repeat it to collect later.

2. Don't be so trusting with your money or people. That seems a HUGE risk transferring that kind of money to a personal bank account.

3. If any money changes hands EVER, get a receipt for it there and then. Had you have done this then you'd own the car and if they changed their mind they would have to "buy" it back from you or else it would be theft.
This, I always buy the car and bring it back with me, once I did leave a deposit of £100 or so and collected it a day or so later, but he was a member of the owners club so I did trust him.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

275 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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All that jazz said:
Was it a Lupo GTI per chance?
Who on earth would pay £11,600 for an old Lupo?

All that jazz

7,632 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Mr2Mike said:
Who on earth would pay £11,600 for an old Lupo?
Oh dear... Does someone have the whoosh parrot please..

ali4390

Original Poster:

2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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All that jazz said:
The linked thread reveals all. Long story short, another wker that had taken a deposit then changed his mind later leaving the buyer in the lurch. He came on here looking for approval and the thread didn't go too well for him.
Ah yeah, I remember that and thinking what a tool he sounded. Now I know how his buyer felt!

mrmr96 said:
Don't let him know how mad you are until you've received the money back. Remember, he hold the chips at the minute. However when you have the money, feel free to post him some dog doo.
This is what I'm bearing in mind at the moment, which is why I haven't been back in touch till I've calmed down slightly.

I'll be civil and ask for my money back and then move on as there isn't a lot else I can do!

Davey S2

13,369 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
3. If any money changes hands EVER, get a receipt for it there and then. Had you have done this then you'd own the car and if they changed their mind they would have to "buy" it back from you or else it would be theft.
Afraid not.

Even if he has paid 90% he isnt the owner until the ful amount has been paid and the V5 has been signed and handed over.

Technically it is a breach of contract but its really not worth the hastle of doing anything about it. Get your money back then let the seller know exactly what you think of him and put it down to experience.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Is it an unusual car?

ali4390

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2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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hornetrider said:
Is it an unusual car?
It's a Z4 Coupe so not the most unusual, although only 30 odd for sale in the country (not the M Coupe).

The car was the perfect spec that I was after which makes it all the more annoying.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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ali4390 said:
I'll be civil and ask for my money back and then move on as there isn't a lot else I can do!
When he gives you what you paid back ask him "is that it?" or "where's the rest?". Then mention all the costs incurred.. fuel, arranging insurance, train tickets etc. If he's got owt about him he should at least offer something for wasting your time. Gutted for you chap, I'd be popping vessels! furious

ali4390

Original Poster:

2,373 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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All that jazz said:
When he gives you what you paid back ask him "is that it?" or "where's the rest?". Then mention all the costs incurred.. fuel, arranging insurance, train tickets etc. If he's got owt about him he should at least offer something for wasting your time. Gutted for you chap, I'd be popping vessels! furious
Bearing in mind he only let me know via text, I'm thinking he has nothing about him.

Believe me, I want to thrash him senseless, however I'm trying to remain calm and think about fate, and there's always more and all that bullst!