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yellowshark454

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578 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th August 2004
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Hi hoping you can give me some views/advice. This is for fast road use not track use.

Current pads are just creating too much dust and I am sick of cleaning the front wheels. The EBC green stuff pads are said to be good on brake dust - any views? How do these stack up against the red stuff and red stuff ceramic pads?

The EBC catalogue has two columns, original quality and uograde quality with entries in both for the Corvette - what do these columns mean in terms of ordering pads. And where can you get these pads in the UK?

Time is approaching to renew the rotors so I might as well do the whole thing. Any views? Stick with the stock C5 rotors or go for an upgrade?

te51cle

2,342 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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I'm using EBC Red STuff on the front and Green Stuff on the rear. I'm using the standard rotors all round and haven't had any problems that weren't due to my own incompetence ! A pair of front rotors for me last year was GBP 160 fitted, so I'd stick with the standard rotors unless you're buying them in the US and are willing to hand carry them back to the UK - I was quoted USD 150 for carriage.

Both Red and Green are quiet in operation, make much less dust than standard, and work at all temperatures including winter. If you have red calipers I'd go for the Red Stuff pads as they match well. Price for a full set of front and rears was about GBP 120.

Sejoc of Tilbury are the main distributor for EBC in the UK they're on 01375 846401. They forgot to send the Red Stuff pads they had on back order for me first time round, but sent them immediately by courier after a quick reminder phone call and didn't make a carriage charge so I am content with their service.

yellowshark454

Original Poster:

578 posts

257 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Thanks Tristram, sounds like another good excuse for painting my callipers red! Why did you go for red on front and green on rear?

yellowshark454

Original Poster:

578 posts

257 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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is your red stuff red or red ceramic? I ask because enquiries suggest to me that ceramic pads produce less dust

te51cle

2,342 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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The red/green combination was recommended by Sejoc, (a) because not as much braking effort is done by the rears and (b) because red for C5s was only just becoming available and supply was erratic. I'd go for red all round if I had to do it again. Mine aren't ceramic. I'd seen some mixed reviews on ceramics at the time and although they certainly produce less dust I didn't want to experiment with them on my car.

LuS1fer

42,619 posts

261 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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I fitted EBC Green pads to my 3rd gen Z28 and they produced far more dust than the stock pads. As for ceramic pads, Corvette Forum seems to recommend not using them on C5's. Something like Hawk Performance Pads may be a better bet.

C5RagTop

1,610 posts

264 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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yellowshark454 said:


Current pads are just creating too much dust and I am sick of cleaning the front wheels.


Oops, are these the ones I sold you? Sorry Pete, I had no idea but at least I will know which ones to avoid. I would offer you a refund but there is phrase which springs to mind - Caveat Emptor

yellowshark454

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578 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th August 2004
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C5RagTop said:



Oops, are these the ones I sold you? Sorry Pete, I had no idea but at least I will know which ones to avoid. I would offer you a refund but there is phrase which springs to mind - Caveat Emptor


'Fraid so Richard. Although I did give you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you gave them to me to push me into the decision to paint the wheels black, or should that be dirty grey!

gsmcoverage

207 posts

258 months

Tuesday 31st August 2004
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Hi all,

Just had my vette serviced by BM and they said the front brakes 70% worn and rears 50%... I think I need to change the fronts pretty soon.

Looking at the thread the Green Stuff pads look the best, but my problem is, who can I get to fit them?

Would someone like Crownhill MK be ok to do this? I don't really fancy another trip to Manchester.

Also I need to replace the front tyres too. Would it be best doing this at the same time? National has the best quote for Goodyear F1's at the moment for £197each...

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

269 months

Tuesday 31st August 2004
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I know I am biased, but you could try North Hants Tyres on 01252 613261 they do a very nice set of Kumho Ecstras for the Z06 and I think they do them for the ordinary C5.
Regarding brake pads, it will take you less than an hour to the change both sets of front pads, all you need to do is jack it up, remove the front wheels and then I think it is one bolt on each caliper clip.

Even a complete non-mechanic could do this job, with a jack and a socket set. If you need some help as you live in Reading and I am in Fleet at the moment give me a call.

Regarding the pads you can get them direct from EBC

www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/car/parts_pad.asp?part=pad&make=CHEVROLET&model=Corvette&year=5%2E7+%2899%2D%29


>> Edited by vetteheadracer on Tuesday 31st August 16:54

anonymous-user

70 months

Tuesday 31st August 2004
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Clarkson talks about the C6 "squirming" under braking which I recognise from the C5. I would have thought this is more to do with the geometry and springs than anything else. Have those who've changed the brakes found any improvement in this area?

te51cle

2,342 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st September 2004
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Lots of tyre places will happily replace your brake pads at the same time. As Vetteheadracer says it really doesn't take much time or require much ability - though I'd avoid the ones that you can't get quicker than.

I've never experienced any squirming under braking problems before or after changing brakes. A steering geometry problem perhaps ?

gsmcoverage

207 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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Thanks all.... Is it easy to change the calipers at the same time to some nice red ones?
www.westcoastcorvette.com/shop_online/prod_detail.cfm?id=380

Also Green Stuff are better/fine to use, than the Hawk ones that you can get from westcoast?
www.westcoastcorvette.com/shop_online/prod_detail.cfm?id=169

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

269 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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I have a set of Red front calipers which if you give me £100 you can have including the disks.

roscobbc

3,809 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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Sejoc is no longer agent for EBC try HI-Spec on 01322 286850

te51cle

2,342 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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The red caliper/green pad combination looks a bit odd if you ask me. I wouldn't do it for the looks, though black caliper/green pad doesn't look wonderful either.

Changing the calipers is a little more involved. I found that you really need a lift in order to get enough room under the car to be able to wield a torque wrench without bodywork getting in the way. It was a real pig to get the bolts to release as they have red loctite on the threads to prevent them from coming loose ! The manual says that you should use new bolts each time you remove the calipers, you really ought to put fresh red loctite on them as a minimum.

Had a look at other sites and the problem with ceramic pads only comes if you drive enthusiastically. They're alright at low speeds but are very prone to fade. At least the insurance assessor will notice how nice and clean your wheels are when he values the wreckage

gsmcoverage

207 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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te51cle said:
The red caliper/green pad combination looks a bit odd if you ask me. I wouldn't do it for the looks, though black caliper/green pad doesn't look wonderful either.

Changing the calipers is a little more involved.



Ah...
I have black ones (well sort of silvery/gray, but don't really stand out) so probably green will look odd as you say. You have red pads, black caliper Tristiam don't you? How does that look?

Maybe the caliper is a little unwise since I don't even have a wrench or jack to get the wheels off. (I have the alloy key which is 1/2 way there!)

>> Edited by gsmcoverage on Thursday 2nd September 17:56

te51cle

2,342 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd September 2004
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I have red calipers and red pads at the front which looks great, red calipers and green pads at the rear which looks a little odd until enough brake dust and general road dirt builds up on the pads.

roscobbc

3,809 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Have any of you guys got experiences with alterative pad combinations on C3 vettes please.

yellowshark454

Original Poster:

578 posts

257 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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I contacyed EBC a month or so back and they recommended red rather than green stuff. View was that green stuff were more suitable for a fiesta than a Vette. They put me onto Powerstop brakes; telno is 01608 646837 - I also found their website via Google but I dont have a note of the URL. They also do EBC discs; no idea if they do them for the Vette but that's a call I plan to make.