Why do people "brake test" trucks?
Why do people "brake test" trucks?
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towman

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14,938 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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M25 last evening. Running through the roadworks at Heathrow (40mph limit & loads of cameras). 200 yards before the limit I had backed off and set the cruise control to 40mph. 5 yards before the lane restrictions, numpty in BMW pulls in front of me and sits 20ft in front. As we approach the first camera, he backs off to 35ish, so consequently I catch up. After the camera, he speeds up and the distance increases. This happened a few times, but at the last camera, he obviously didnt like how close I was getting, so slammed on the brakes. I had to make an emergency stop to avoid a collision (god only knows what went off behind me - you know about the "caterpillar" effect).

My point is this - irrespective of whether I was right or wrong, why would someone in a 1 tonne car made out of bacofoil want to be hit by 38 tonnes of heavy truck? The mind boggles.

Steve

wilkos

197 posts

261 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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I don't know Steve. Because they hate trucks?

One for you. Why do truckers insist on using the middle lane to overtake a truck thats on the limiter, but has it's limiter set at 0.2mph less than the overtaking truck, causing the middle lane car and van drivers to pull into the fast lane without increasing their speed, dragging the fast lane down from 85 to 65 and generally causing mayhem.
Where the motorway opens up to 4 lanes, you get 3 lanes of truck racing!

You should have your own lane, and shouldn't be allowed out of it. After a while we could connect all the trucks together, as they'd all be traveling at 56mph. Then we could put tracks under them, have one driver for every 20 trucks, and let them travel at double the speed.

>> Edited by wilkos on Sunday 8th August 07:48

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Steve,
The bloke is obviously a prat! He probably held a grudge for being tailgated by a truck in 1964 and finally got a chance for revenge. Martin.

TripleS

4,294 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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towman said:
M25 last evening. Running through the roadworks at Heathrow (40mph limit & loads of cameras). 200 yards before the limit I had backed off and set the cruise control to 40mph. 5 yards before the lane restrictions, numpty in BMW pulls in front of me and sits 20ft in front. As we approach the first camera, he backs off to 35ish, so consequently I catch up. After the camera, he speeds up and the distance increases. This happened a few times, but at the last camera, he obviously didnt like how close I was getting, so slammed on the brakes. I had to make an emergency stop to avoid a collision (god only knows what went off behind me - you know about the "caterpillar" effect).

My point is this - irrespective of whether I was right or wrong, why would someone in a 1 tonne car made out of bacofoil want to be hit by 38 tonnes of heavy truck? The mind boggles.

Steve


Search me. I really do wonder about the mentality of some drivers these days. There's not even much sign of a self preservation instinct, let alone any concern for the effect their behaviour might have on others.

I know we can all make mistakes, but some of these clowns really seem to go looking for trouble.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

tvradict

3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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wilkos said:
One for you. Why do truckers insist on using the middle lane to overtake a truck thats on the limiter, but has it's limiter set at 0.2mph less than the overtaking truck, causing the middle lane car and van drivers to pull into the fast lane without increasing their speed, dragging the fast lane down from 85 to 65 and generally causing mayhem.


2 words.

Cruise Control.

tvradict

3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Steve,

Its gonna take a few of us to start bashing in to these suicidal c*nts before they realise it isn't a good idea. Brake testing cars is bordering on the stupid, but I see that happening less and less.

Its the same with the 'can't get stuck behind the lorry' mentality. People pulling out in the most stupid of places and then not accelerating and just expecting us to slow down with 3 seconds notice.

I think its time to start educating drivers about the dangers trucks can pose if you don't act resposibly around them!

wilkos

197 posts

261 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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tvradict said:

wilkos said:
One for you. Why do truckers insist on using the middle lane to overtake a truck thats on the limiter, but has it's limiter set at 0.2mph less than the overtaking truck, causing the middle lane car and van drivers to pull into the fast lane without increasing their speed, dragging the fast lane down from 85 to 65 and generally causing mayhem.



2 words.

Cruise Control.


So set it 0.2mph lower and don't pull out.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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wilkos said:
After a while we could connect all the trucks together, as they'd all be traveling at 56mph. Then we could put tracks under them, have one driver for every 20 trucks, and let them travel at double the speed.

That's Alpen sprayed all over the keyboard... Brilliant

Pies

13,116 posts

279 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Ok then why do lorries ALWAYS drive too close to the vechile in front.It dosen't matter what time or road lorries ALWAYS DRIVE TOO CLOSE

Calculate the stopping distance for a 38 tonne lorry its a hell of a long way, yet i see stream of lorries with literally (sp)yards between them.If i decide to do 50mph on a mororway why do lorries come flying right up to my bumper then flash there lights then pull out
Why do lorries insist on doing 56mph through roadworks,i.e flat out

Lorries should be banned from the uk roads between 6am and 6pm

If you look at the stats you will find a very large percentage accidents which result in death on our roads involve a lorry

lanciachris

3,357 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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40mph with the cruise control on sounds like a dubious place to start really. As for the bmw driver though, should have just checked for the presence of a cctv camera covering the area and ploughed on

Targarama

14,717 posts

306 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Pies said:
Ok then why do lorries ALWAYS drive too close to the vechile in front.It dosen't matter what time or road lorries ALWAYS DRIVE TOO CLOSE




Trucks appear to drive too close to the car in front because some prat has pulled into the nice large (in their eyes) gap. Obviously there are exceptions such as dump truck and skip trucks. I think they make the laws up as they go along ...

I'm no fan of trucks passing each other, but unless there is a law and unless cars have more consideration then accidents will happen.

I agree many accidents seem to involve trucks too ... but I bet a high percentage are down to a car or other vehicle causing the truck to take evasive action etc. Naturally, there are still plenty of bad truckers (or truckers with a bad attitude at least, but probably no more than there are car drivers with the same attitude). Unfortunately trucks make a big mess when they crash.

Targarama

14,717 posts

306 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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towman said:
M25 last evening. Running through the roadworks at Heathrow (40mph limit & loads of cameras). 200 yards before the limit I had backed off and set the cruise control to 40mph. 5 yards before the lane restrictions, numpty in BMW pulls in front of me and sits 20ft in front. As we approach the first camera, he backs off to 35ish, so consequently I catch up. After the camera, he speeds up and the distance increases. This happened a few times, but at the last camera, he obviously didnt like how close I was getting, so slammed on the brakes. I had to make an emergency stop to avoid a collision (god only knows what went off behind me - you know about the "caterpillar" effect).

My point is this - irrespective of whether I was right or wrong, why would someone in a 1 tonne car made out of bacofoil want to be hit by 38 tonnes of heavy truck? The mind boggles.

Steve


Don't you have a big loud airhorn? I few blasts of that up his chuff and a rev of the throttle will shut them up. (Ever seen the move Duel - I think that's the one with the mean truck trying to kill the car driver.)

towman

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262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Pies said:

Lorries should be banned from the uk roads between 6am and 6pm

I`ll agree with that. Brilliant Idea. One condition though - ban cars between 6pm and 6am ! Oh yea - you get the farking caravans in your slot !

Steve

towman

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Sunday 8th August 2004
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BliarOut said:

wilkos said:
After a while we could connect all the trucks together, as they'd all be traveling at 56mph. Then we could put tracks under them, have one driver for every 20 trucks, and let them travel at double the speed.


That's Alpen sprayed all over the keyboard... Brilliant


Oh No - Bliarout has a disciple!

towman

Original Poster:

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262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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wilkos said:
After a while we could connect all the trucks together, as they'd all be traveling at 56mph. Then we could put tracks under them, have one driver for every 20 trucks, and let them travel at double the speed.


Great idea - heres another one for you. We invent a big car with say 56 seats and only one driver. We could call it a coach. Thats 55 less cars on the road and a lot more space for everyone else!

Steve

towman

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Sunday 8th August 2004
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wilkos said:

One for you. Why do truckers insist on using the middle lane to overtake a truck thats on the limiter, but has it's limiter set at 0.2mph less than the overtaking truck, causing the middle lane car and van drivers to pull into the fast lane without increasing their speed, dragging the fast lane down from 85 to 65 and generally causing mayhem.
Where the motorway opens up to 4 lanes, you get 3 lanes of truck racing!



Number of factors:
1. Govenment legislation allows us to run at 4mph slower than the speed limit.

2. Most of our deliveries are timed.

3. Because we can!

You dont like looking at the back of a truck for mile after mile, so why should we?

Steve

towman

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262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Pies said:
If i decide to do 50mph on a mororway why do lorries come flying right up to my bumper then flash there lights then pull out


Because you are being a bloody menace.

chief-0369

1,195 posts

275 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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How about you bolt a bloody great big set of bullbars to the front of the trucks. Make them out of something substancial, like huge iron girders. Fix them to the chassis so they are propperly supported and attach huge great spikes to it.

If someone pulls infront dont brake. Darwin, yet again, proves the creationists wrong and there is one (or more for multi occupancy vehicles) less numptie on the road.

So less traffic, less hold ups and less numpties. Thats good alround I would say.

supraman2954

3,241 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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towman said:

Pies said:
If i decide to do 50mph on a mororway why do lorries come flying right up to my bumper then flash there lights then pull out



Because you are being a bloody menace.

Agreed! Why the hell would anyone want to do 50MPH on a motorway? it's not even economical!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th August 2004
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Only if we are allowed to attach rockets to the front of our cars

Now it's a level playing field. WHOEVER pulls out dies. Sounds like fun