Sterilising bottles etc...
Sterilising bottles etc...
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Chilli

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17,320 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Mrs C has got the microwavee all ready in prearation for it's hourly use in cleaning bottles etc. Is it safe? I mean, does it work as well as...err, I dunno, boiling I guess?!

Oh, and how many times is it ok to turn a nappy inside out once it's dried out?!

If a baby cries, do you feed it? Or is that giving in and therefore teaching the little fella that if he wants anything he just need to make a noise. I'm gonna go with ignoring him......na, that's not right is it? I guess sedation is out. Oh, so many questions...

LordGrover

34,152 posts

241 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Have you considered boarding school yet?

Chilli

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17,320 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
Have you considered boarding school yet?
Not yet....Still getting the ebay ad sorted.

h0b0

9,054 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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My son had lots of issues with gas and would need feeding every 2 hours even during the night. We did it because we figured the food was helping.
Once the gas calmed down we had to train him to eat more less often. It only took a week to take him from 3 feeds during the night to non by removing one bottle at a time. Now, if he isn't ill, he eats 4 times a day and we put him down at 7pm and have to wake him at 6am.

Buy a book called 12 hours by 12 weeks and follow the simple advice. My son was delayed due to the colic but still at 16 weeks he was in the routine and now gets angry if anything changes

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Chilli said:
If a baby cries, do you feed it? Or is that giving in and therefore teaching the little fella that if he wants anything he just need to make a noise.
Here's my take on giving in to kids:

My first (now 16) was picked up THE SECOND she cried...grandparents were the worse! We were young and new to it so did the same - she didnt sleep through the night until she was 4 and to this day is a huge PITA!

Second was done better - let him cry for a set time before going to him, not pandering to just "pick me up" crying......far better child.

Third, more of the same.

4th.....To be honest, we were too busy for that one and he had to be going ape st before anyone found time to do anything with him! As a result he slept through the night from day 1, never cried on waking.....he play in his cot for hours in the morning and never expected anyone to pick him up! He is now 5 and insanley confidant (sometimes too much, earlier in the year he got lost from his mum in the playground while she was getting his bigger brother from the upper school......so he walked home 2 miles!!!!! I was at home and he just knocked on the door and said "I lost mummy, can I go on the xbox" He's also the only kid in his class who goes into school alone....its NUTS, every other kid goes in with their mum so the mum can hang their coat on a peg and kiss them goodbye....creates a HUGE traffic jam of people. He high fives me at the doors and just barges through.

So...you want a kid that can take on the world and either end up a millionaire or in prison (or both) - dont pick them up, ever!

Chilli

Original Poster:

17,320 posts

265 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Tiggsy said:
Here's my take on giving in to kids:

My first (now 16) was picked up THE SECOND she cried...grandparents were the worse! We were young and new to it so did the same - she didnt sleep through the night until she was 4 and to this day is a huge PITA!

Second was done better - let him cry for a set time before going to him, not pandering to just "pick me up" crying......far better child.

Third, more of the same.

4th.....To be honest, we were too busy for that one and he had to be going ape st before anyone found time to do anything with him! As a result he slept through the night from day 1, never cried on waking.....he play in his cot for hours in the morning and never expected anyone to pick him up! He is now 5 and insanley confidant (sometimes too much, earlier in the year he got lost from his mum in the playground while she was getting his bigger brother from the upper school......so he walked home 2 miles!!!!! I was at home and he just knocked on the door and said "I lost mummy, can I go on the xbox" He's also the only kid in his class who goes into school alone....its NUTS, every other kid goes in with their mum so the mum can hang their coat on a peg and kiss them goodbye....creates a HUGE traffic jam of people. He high fives me at the doors and just barges through.

So...you want a kid that can take on the world and either end up a millionaire or in prison (or both) - dont pick them up, ever!
Excellent! hehe

prand

6,244 posts

225 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Chilli said:
Excellent! hehe
I'd have to agree with this - we found that for purely selfish reasons (we want an easy life) we let the babies do the "managed crying" thing a lot, expecting that a dependency on being cuddled and picked up starts very early in life. They were also put in their own room by 6 weeks, and we didn't rush to pick them up, expecially at night.

Our second seems much more content as he doesn't get the attention his elder sister did either, adn they sleep like babies most of the time. Our eldest needs the Supernanny tough love thing every now and then as she decides to get up a few too many times in the night and we have to put her back to bed. This has started to tail off now she's potty trained strangely.

BUT - all babies are different

We used a microwave steriliser until about 6 months. Did fine for both of ours. I suspect we were using tap, not boiled water for powdered milk a lot earlier than that too.

ascayman

13,315 posts

245 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Dont worry about sterilizing the bottles just stick them in the dish washer.

Chilli

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17,320 posts

265 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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ascayman said:
Dont worry about sterilizing the bottles just stick them in the dish washer.
I'll ask, but doubt she'll agree.

944fan

4,962 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Chilli said:
ascayman said:
Dont worry about sterilizing the bottles just stick them in the dish washer.
I'll ask, but doubt she'll agree.
Does the same as the microwave. Steam sterlisation. Worth cleaning with a brush before putting them in to ensure no milk deposits left.

Don't use the cold sterilisation with milton fluid. I've got excema on my hands from endless dips in that - it is a very mild bleach solution.

ETA - don't fret too much about sterilisation of bottles. In a lot of countries (including the USA) most people don't bother as many microbioligists think that hot soapy water is enough.


Chilli

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17,320 posts

265 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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944fan said:
Does the same as the microwave. Steam sterlisation. Worth cleaning with a brush before putting them in to ensure no milk deposits left.

Don't use the cold sterilisation with milton fluid. I've got excema on my hands from endless dips in that - it is a very mild bleach solution.

ETA - don't fret too much about sterilisation of bottles. In a lot of countries (including the USA) most people don't bother as many microbioligists think that hot soapy water is enough.
No, I meant the maid...I'll ask the maid about putting......ah, don't worry!

Why doesn't anyone do disposable bottles. you know, paper/card bottles like milk cartons. BINGO, business idea number 874.


Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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When you see the amount of st babies stick in their mouths...you'll soon wonder why you sterilised anything!

SL

868 posts

253 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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ascayman said:
Dont worry about sterilizing the bottles just stick them in the dish washer.
Just don't do this if you've got any plates in these with tomato sauce residue on them (curry, pasta sauce etc) as you end up with really scummy bright orange bottles! One of my friends asked me what I'd been eating to turn my breastmilk bright orange laugh

I have a standalone steriliser which I use everyday. My bottles get washed out and scrubbed but don't always get thrown in there. It's more for my pump (I'm exclusively expressing) which I'm not convinced gets a good clean in all the nooks and crannies, no matter how hard I try.

SSC!

1,849 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Chilli said:
Why doesn't anyone do disposable bottles. you know, paper/card bottles like milk cartons. BINGO, business idea number 874.
Idea already in production and on shelves in Boots.

Chilli said:
Mrs C has got the microwavee all ready in prearation for it's hourly use in cleaning bottles etc. Is it safe? I mean, does it work as well as...err, I dunno, boiling I guess?!
HOURLY?

4 bottles in steriliser then fill and fire in fridge. Midwife bangs on about 1 bottle at a time but when the poor bugger is screaming for a feed at 3am you will soon learn. I always have 8 ready to go in the morning. I bought a bottle warmer and for a while I would have it on ALL night, but now she sleeps 11 hours, so every morning I come down to the kitchen and throw a bottle in mirco for 1 min.

h0b0

9,054 posts

225 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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We only feed 4 times a day with 9 ounzes so only have 4 bottles to clean for our 5 month old. We make the bottles as and when he needs them and serve room temperature. If it is cold from the fridge he drools more than he swallows but room temp works. To make things easier in the morning or when we are on the road we some times have the formula measured out in a sepearte smaller bottle so it is ready to pour into the water and serve.

I notice I say serve a lot when refering to feeding the boy. I think it is appropriate as e do call him "Master' as he gets angry if you do not do things the proper way as has ben taught in his routine. I made the mistake of typing a message on my phone after he had finished feeding the other night and he was not happy. I hade strayed from the routine and got repremanded for it.

missdiane

13,994 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I have so many questions too, stuff we don't think anyone will tell us til we ask, was washing the bibs yesterday and suddenly thought, when does baby wear these? Had to think and come to conclusion it was to protect clothing (sudden dumb pregnancy brain fail)

I guess we'll learn, or be posting on here at 4am to ask, Chilli; you are online on my night shift aren't you? and vice versa hehe

h0b0

9,054 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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missdiane said:
when does baby wear these? Had to think and come to conclusion it was to protect clothing
Teething. My boy drools so much that he goes through bibs constanlty. If he wasn't wearing a bib we would be changing his cloths to prevent him getting cold from the damp on his skin. I call my boy "Leaky" because he leaks from every orifice but mostly the mouth. He is going through a spit up phase as well now so again a bib is easier to change than his outfit. We were sat outside a bar on Sunday when he managed to vomit in my eyes and then laugh at me. He has his dad's sens of humor.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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We just threw our microwave steriliser thingy away, youngest turns 1 next week and is eating crisps and super noodles now like the rest of us.

On the crying thing you'll do what you do and that will be the right thing for you to do, there is no correct way, but it's true you do less of it with each child.

The_Doc

6,248 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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missdiane said:
I have so many questions too, stuff we don't think anyone will tell us til we ask, was washing the bibs yesterday and suddenly thought, when does baby wear these? Had to think and come to conclusion it was to protect clothing (sudden dumb pregnancy brain fail)

I guess we'll learn, or be posting on here at 4am to ask, Chilli; you are online on my night shift aren't you? and vice versa hehe
Www.babycentre.co.uk

Look for your birth club in the forums. My wife found so many answers and such good reassurance here

Free and reliable

h0b0

9,054 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Do not get obsessed with "Average Baby". It has driven me to insanity the number of times my wife has said "The Average baby is doing xxxxx by now". Your baby will be trying to communicate with you from day one. Listen and learn. But, remember you are the parent and you have to teach them everything including feeding schedule and sleeping schedule.

Get used to failure and frustration as you think you have just cracked it and there will be a major set back. This does not make you a bad parent! You have to be the most patient person on earth though. Try diferent tactics as well but try snd stick to a routine at the same time.

But, until you are a parent you will never understand the feeling of pride you get just looking at the most minor things a child does.