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Hi all,
I've been on the forum a while but never got round to starting a thread on my own cars. My current pride and joy is my Steel Grey 1992 205 GTI. I bought the car when I was just 18 (yep the insurance was more than the car!) and it was in great condition. Unfortunately it also had a banging sound system, the loudest exhaust i've ever heard and was lowered about 60mm on some proper budget coilovers! The ride was so hard bits started falling off the dash after a couple of months...
I drove the car like that for about a year as my daily, enjoying having what was a pretty fast car for an 18 year old. I then took the car off the road over the winter and had the rear beam rebuilt, I refitted some standard dampers with some eibach springs to give a better ride. There was a tiny bit of rust under the boot so I had that sorted out, and fitted a larger capacity master cylinder (from a 306 gti6). Again I then just enjoyed it, but made a big mistake having a go in a friends MI16 converted 205...
Engine conversion time then! I decided to go with a 2.0 16v from a 306 gti6 as they are a bit newer, more powerful and more reliable than the MI16 engines. I thought whilst doing that I could go over the whole car, so ended up replacing:
Engine - 2.0 16v from a 306 GTI6
Engine Mounts - BBM Grp N
Air filter - K+N
Exhaust - Conversion manifolds and centre section from Pug Racing (standard back box for sleeper looks)
Brakes - GTI6 calipers and discs with goodrich braided hoses
Interior - Half leather seats
Clutch - MI16
Driveshafts and hubs - 1.9 gti (to allow GTI6 brakes)
Radiator - Nissens slimline Rad with 2 x 9 inch slimline fans
Once it was all sorted and running I had it on the Rolling Road near me and it made 188.3bhp! Not sure how it was so powerful but looking at the graph it appears to have some non standard cams at least - but very suprised/confused with that!
Anyway some pics:
[pic]http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b474/205pat/Pugfest2012_AllanRhodes_054.jpg[pic]
I've been on the forum a while but never got round to starting a thread on my own cars. My current pride and joy is my Steel Grey 1992 205 GTI. I bought the car when I was just 18 (yep the insurance was more than the car!) and it was in great condition. Unfortunately it also had a banging sound system, the loudest exhaust i've ever heard and was lowered about 60mm on some proper budget coilovers! The ride was so hard bits started falling off the dash after a couple of months...
I drove the car like that for about a year as my daily, enjoying having what was a pretty fast car for an 18 year old. I then took the car off the road over the winter and had the rear beam rebuilt, I refitted some standard dampers with some eibach springs to give a better ride. There was a tiny bit of rust under the boot so I had that sorted out, and fitted a larger capacity master cylinder (from a 306 gti6). Again I then just enjoyed it, but made a big mistake having a go in a friends MI16 converted 205...
Engine conversion time then! I decided to go with a 2.0 16v from a 306 gti6 as they are a bit newer, more powerful and more reliable than the MI16 engines. I thought whilst doing that I could go over the whole car, so ended up replacing:
Engine - 2.0 16v from a 306 GTI6
Engine Mounts - BBM Grp N
Air filter - K+N
Exhaust - Conversion manifolds and centre section from Pug Racing (standard back box for sleeper looks)
Brakes - GTI6 calipers and discs with goodrich braided hoses
Interior - Half leather seats
Clutch - MI16
Driveshafts and hubs - 1.9 gti (to allow GTI6 brakes)
Radiator - Nissens slimline Rad with 2 x 9 inch slimline fans
Once it was all sorted and running I had it on the Rolling Road near me and it made 188.3bhp! Not sure how it was so powerful but looking at the graph it appears to have some non standard cams at least - but very suprised/confused with that!
Anyway some pics:
[pic]http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b474/205pat/Pugfest2012_AllanRhodes_054.jpg[pic]
205pat said:
Hi all,
I've been on the forum a while but never got round to starting a thread on my own cars. My current pride and joy is my Steel Grey 1992 205 GTI. I bought the car when I was just 18 (yep the insurance was more than the car!) and it was in great condition. Unfortunately it also had a banging sound system, the loudest exhaust i've ever heard and was lowered about 60mm on some proper budget coilovers! The ride was so hard bits started falling off the dash after a couple of months...
I drove the car like that for about a year as my daily, enjoying having what was a pretty fast car for an 18 year old. I then took the car off the road over the winter and had the rear beam rebuilt, I refitted some standard dampers with some eibach springs to give a better ride. There was a tiny bit of rust under the boot so I had that sorted out, and fitted a larger capacity master cylinder (from a 306 gti6). Again I then just enjoyed it, but made a big mistake having a go in a friends MI16 converted 205...
Engine conversion time then! I decided to go with a 2.0 16v from a 306 gti6 as they are a bit newer, more powerful and more reliable than the MI16 engines. I thought whilst doing that I could go over the whole car, so ended up replacing:
Engine - 2.0 16v from a 306 GTI6
Engine Mounts - BBM Grp N
Air filter - K+N
Exhaust - Conversion manifolds and centre section from Pug Racing (standard back box for sleeper looks)
Brakes - GTI6 calipers and discs with goodrich braided hoses
Interior - Half leather seats
Clutch - MI16
Driveshafts and hubs - 1.9 gti (to allow GTI6 brakes)
Radiator - Nissens slimline Rad with 2 x 9 inch slimline fans
Once it was all sorted and running I had it on the Rolling Road near me and it made 188.3bhp! Not sure how it was so powerful but looking at the graph it appears to have some non standard cams at least - but very suprised/confused with that!
Anyway some pics:
Fantastic I've been on the forum a while but never got round to starting a thread on my own cars. My current pride and joy is my Steel Grey 1992 205 GTI. I bought the car when I was just 18 (yep the insurance was more than the car!) and it was in great condition. Unfortunately it also had a banging sound system, the loudest exhaust i've ever heard and was lowered about 60mm on some proper budget coilovers! The ride was so hard bits started falling off the dash after a couple of months...
I drove the car like that for about a year as my daily, enjoying having what was a pretty fast car for an 18 year old. I then took the car off the road over the winter and had the rear beam rebuilt, I refitted some standard dampers with some eibach springs to give a better ride. There was a tiny bit of rust under the boot so I had that sorted out, and fitted a larger capacity master cylinder (from a 306 gti6). Again I then just enjoyed it, but made a big mistake having a go in a friends MI16 converted 205...
Engine conversion time then! I decided to go with a 2.0 16v from a 306 gti6 as they are a bit newer, more powerful and more reliable than the MI16 engines. I thought whilst doing that I could go over the whole car, so ended up replacing:
Engine - 2.0 16v from a 306 GTI6
Engine Mounts - BBM Grp N
Air filter - K+N
Exhaust - Conversion manifolds and centre section from Pug Racing (standard back box for sleeper looks)
Brakes - GTI6 calipers and discs with goodrich braided hoses
Interior - Half leather seats
Clutch - MI16
Driveshafts and hubs - 1.9 gti (to allow GTI6 brakes)
Radiator - Nissens slimline Rad with 2 x 9 inch slimline fans
Once it was all sorted and running I had it on the Rolling Road near me and it made 188.3bhp! Not sure how it was so powerful but looking at the graph it appears to have some non standard cams at least - but very suprised/confused with that!
Anyway some pics:
following with interest.
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r1ch said:
Looking good mate. Rare colour too.
Thanks, the only problem with it is trying to find spare body panels! Re-spraying is difficult as Peugeot quote 4 different colour codes for their steel grey too. Huge longshot but if anyone reading has any 205 bodypanels in steel grey please PM me as i'll but them off you!
205pat said:
Thanks, the only problem with it is trying to find spare body panels! Re-spraying is difficult as Peugeot quote 4 different colour codes for their steel grey too.
Huge longshot but if anyone reading has any 205 bodypanels in steel grey please PM me as i'll but them off you!
Shirley it would be just as easy to get a paint shop to match you some paint against the rest of the car? 20+ year old paint won't be the same colour as the correct original code anyway.Huge longshot but if anyone reading has any 205 bodypanels in steel grey please PM me as i'll but them off you!
Hi Pat, Hows the fuel leak? lol
From memory the paint code for Steel Grey is 'MOTA' but I haven't looked into different shades. The different shades are normally for different years, at least that's what it was when I was looking at miami blue paint codes, it turned out there were 3 different shades used for the lighter limited edition 1990 models and 3 more shades used for the darker 'post 1990' models, pain in the arrse!
p.s. you missed the meet tonight :P
From memory the paint code for Steel Grey is 'MOTA' but I haven't looked into different shades. The different shades are normally for different years, at least that's what it was when I was looking at miami blue paint codes, it turned out there were 3 different shades used for the lighter limited edition 1990 models and 3 more shades used for the darker 'post 1990' models, pain in the arrse!
p.s. you missed the meet tonight :P
Nice motor. Looks like a twin of mine.
I've had mine for over 3 years and it never fails to put a smile on my face.
It's now up for sale as it just doesn't get used.
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4056326.htm
I've had mine for over 3 years and it never fails to put a smile on my face.
It's now up for sale as it just doesn't get used.
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4056326.htm
Well I think its time I updated this a bit!
The pug was running like a dream, the power and induction noise is superb, yet with the handling a character of a 205, however things were soon about to change....
Shortly after my last post I was lucky enough to secure a job within motorsport - a real dream come true for me! The only problem with it was that it is an 80 mile a day commute! Thankfully I had a Focus which could take the miles ok, but being the 1.6 zetec it wasn't as economical as i thought it would be.
So, the hunt was on for a derv, which led me to go for a test drive in a very nice golf gt tdi. I drove home in this instead...
I used pistonheads man maths to work out it was a good idea:
It shouldn't be too much worse than the focus on fuel, on which I am thankfully right.
I don't have a mortgage to worry about yet, ditto kids, wife etc.
I really wanted one.
So the pug, as soon as I got my new job it started getting a few problems. Namely a slight vibration has turned into a harsh grinding noise coming through the cabin when ticking over, yet as soon as i rev the engine or drive it clears (any ideas as i'm out!?), and more worryingly a large pool of water in the rear footwell!
After checking the sunroof, windows etc everything seemed hunky dory. I took the interior out to check it was totally dry and after lifting the carpet found a lovely rust hole! Water has obviously been coming through from the road, bummer!
Ill upload a photo tomorrow but plans are to rust kill it now then after being paid at the end of the month get someone to weld her up!
Suggestions of good rust killers would be hugely appreciated!
P.s apologies for huge essay!
The pug was running like a dream, the power and induction noise is superb, yet with the handling a character of a 205, however things were soon about to change....
Shortly after my last post I was lucky enough to secure a job within motorsport - a real dream come true for me! The only problem with it was that it is an 80 mile a day commute! Thankfully I had a Focus which could take the miles ok, but being the 1.6 zetec it wasn't as economical as i thought it would be.
So, the hunt was on for a derv, which led me to go for a test drive in a very nice golf gt tdi. I drove home in this instead...
I used pistonheads man maths to work out it was a good idea:
It shouldn't be too much worse than the focus on fuel, on which I am thankfully right.
I don't have a mortgage to worry about yet, ditto kids, wife etc.
I really wanted one.
So the pug, as soon as I got my new job it started getting a few problems. Namely a slight vibration has turned into a harsh grinding noise coming through the cabin when ticking over, yet as soon as i rev the engine or drive it clears (any ideas as i'm out!?), and more worryingly a large pool of water in the rear footwell!
After checking the sunroof, windows etc everything seemed hunky dory. I took the interior out to check it was totally dry and after lifting the carpet found a lovely rust hole! Water has obviously been coming through from the road, bummer!
Ill upload a photo tomorrow but plans are to rust kill it now then after being paid at the end of the month get someone to weld her up!
Suggestions of good rust killers would be hugely appreciated!
P.s apologies for huge essay!
Civic looks tidy, loving the man maths - clearly it is the perfect car for commuting lol
As for the noise with the 205, does it go when you push the clutch down? I had a similar noise on mine and it turned out to be the clutch release bearing catching against the cover. Anyway, worth a shot. Only other thing i can think of is a heat shield resonating at low rpms?
As for the noise with the 205, does it go when you push the clutch down? I had a similar noise on mine and it turned out to be the clutch release bearing catching against the cover. Anyway, worth a shot. Only other thing i can think of is a heat shield resonating at low rpms?
205pat said:
Suggestions of good rust killers would be hugely appreciated!
Just read the thread so far, nice car 
Any old rust converter should do the trick I would have thought, sorry not too sure of brands but they all do the same thing (can't remember what we use at work).
How big is the rust patch/hole? Can you borrow an angle grinder and just cut it out, back to good metal, then rust convert and prime it. If you get a square of sheet metal cut the same size it should save a few man hours come welding time as they should just have to clean the edges up and tack the square bit of metal in, then weld, so all the prep is essentially done for them. Also if you have one hole, it might be worth checking the rest of the car?
If you know any one with a mig/tig welder (even an arc welder if they have a steadier hand than me) you could prob do all the prep, cut the patch yourself and pay them in beer money?
Edit: Sorry if thats a bit of a waste of time, but it might be of help
Edited by jimmyboy85 on Friday 28th December 22:45
Thanks for the comments guys!
Unfortunately the noise is there whether clutch is in or not, have tried heatshields but to no avail. Its certainly something rubbing... possibly master cylinder related as there is very little clearance between that and the cam cover?
DiscoStu said:
Civic looks tidy, loving the man maths - clearly it is the perfect car for commuting lol
As for the noise with the 205, does it go when you push the clutch down? I had a similar noise on mine and it turned out to be the clutch release bearing catching against the cover. Anyway, worth a shot. Only other thing i can think of is a heat shield resonating at low rpms?
Haha, im lucky in that despite being 40 miles each way its an amazing drive - would be rude not to have a car to enjoy it! I just refuse to look at the fuel gauge after a spirited drive home....As for the noise with the 205, does it go when you push the clutch down? I had a similar noise on mine and it turned out to be the clutch release bearing catching against the cover. Anyway, worth a shot. Only other thing i can think of is a heat shield resonating at low rpms?
Unfortunately the noise is there whether clutch is in or not, have tried heatshields but to no avail. Its certainly something rubbing... possibly master cylinder related as there is very little clearance between that and the cam cover?
jimmyboy85 said:
Just read the thread so far, nice car
Any old rust converter should do the trick I would have thought, sorry not too sure of brands but they all do the same thing (can't remember what we use at work).
How big is the rust patch/hole? Can you borrow an angle grinder and just cut it out, back to good metal, then rust convert and prime it. If you get a square of sheet metal cut the same size it should save a few man hours come welding time as they should just have to clean the edges up and tack the square bit of metal in, then weld, so all the prep is essentially done for them. Also if you have one hole, it might be worth checking the rest of the car?
If you know any one with a mig/tig welder (even an arc welder if they have a steadier hand than me) you could prob do all the prep, cut the patch yourself and pay them in beer money?
Edit: Sorry if thats a bit of a waste of time, but it might be of help
Not a waste of time at all! I'm very much of a novice when it comes to welding/bodywork stuff. The hole itself is pretty small and have checked rest of the car and thankfully it was ok, will get a pic up tomorrow unless i've been washed away! A friend seems pretty handy with a welder (he restores landies so gets plenty of practice!) but i'm pretty sure its right on top of where the fuel tank is so i'm guessing that'll have to come out too!? Any old rust converter should do the trick I would have thought, sorry not too sure of brands but they all do the same thing (can't remember what we use at work).
How big is the rust patch/hole? Can you borrow an angle grinder and just cut it out, back to good metal, then rust convert and prime it. If you get a square of sheet metal cut the same size it should save a few man hours come welding time as they should just have to clean the edges up and tack the square bit of metal in, then weld, so all the prep is essentially done for them. Also if you have one hole, it might be worth checking the rest of the car?
If you know any one with a mig/tig welder (even an arc welder if they have a steadier hand than me) you could prob do all the prep, cut the patch yourself and pay them in beer money?
Edit: Sorry if thats a bit of a waste of time, but it might be of help
Edited by jimmyboy85 on Friday 28th December 22:45
Ordinary_Chap said:
Nice cars!
I had a CTR for 3 years and it was a great car, completely reliable and the sound of VTEC was very, very addictive!
I had a CTR for 3 years and it was a great car, completely reliable and the sound of VTEC was very, very addictive!
Mastodon2 said:
Civic Type R - good shout.
Thanks - VTEC is as you say addictive, can't decide if they sound better modified or standard though? Pic is actually the sellers, I wish I could keep it that clean and parked outside that house! Gassing Station | Readers' Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff