Heel and toe
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Diver

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66 posts

269 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I'm sure it's been asked before but I can't find it with the search facility at the moment.

I recently purchased a R400 SV (Duratec), my first Caterham, and I find the pedals are too far apart to heel and toe. What have people found is the best modification to assist this? Bend the pedal, if so which one? Fit a larger brake plate? Wear giant shoes? Or something I haven't thought of yet?


Doodles19

2,201 posts

202 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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That looks like a very oddly spaced pedal box! Seems like quite the predicament!

I wouldn't bother with bigger shoes, what you'd gain in being able to touch both pedals you'd be more than likely to loose in feel.

I would have thought some form of modification to the accel pedal to increase the surface area slightly might be the best way to go.

Disclaimer: I have no technical experience... so this could be awful advice!

VHPD

295 posts

177 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Not sure about an SV but on an S3 I used a couple of washers to bring the brake pedal across slightly. I adjusted the brake and Throttle pedals up and down but still had problems that I only solved by swapping my Puma Speedcats for Pilloti shoes.
They are wide enough for heel toe but slim enough for S3 driving

downsman

1,099 posts

185 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I thought the SV was for people with giant feet biggrin

Seriously, I have seen people modify the accelerator pedal by fixing on some plastic tube that fits around the circular end of the pedal and projects towards the brake. there was an article in Low Flying fairly recently I think.

grenpayne

2,082 posts

191 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I had the same problem with my S3. I got a 6 foot length of 2" x 4" and (VERY slowly and carefully!) bent the accelerator pedal towards the brake pedal. Works a treat, although I don't use my heel, I use the outside of right foot so I guess it depends on your technique smile

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

243 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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When heel and toeing I use the ball of my foot on the brake and the outer edge of my foot on the throttle. This is why most race boots have a re enforced part on the outer edge! This method also allows you to modulate the brake as you get loads of feel. All in MHO of course, each to their own.

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I have an SV too, and the first thing I thought when I saw the padal box setup was "WTF!" Obviously built to price.
I think the only sensible option is to bend them.
Personaly I'm going to cut mine out, throw it away, and fit this floor mounted setup from AP.
http://www.apracing.com/product_details/race_car/p...

But at £2k plus about £850 the master cylinders bringing it closer to £3k it's a bit eye watering.
I just think that feel, through the wheel, seat, and pedals, is one of the most important factors of driving. So IMO worth investing some time and effort.

Get bending! and good luck. smile

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

243 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Can you not remove the accel pedal and weld a plate on the pedal to increase the size and move it closer to the brake.

Diver

Original Poster:

66 posts

269 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Thanks everyone, lots of good suggestions there. I think I'll try a combination of ideas, I'll fit a couple of washers to bring the pedal closer but also do some careful bending too.

BertBert

21,221 posts

240 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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in a non-SV I removed half the circle on the throttle pedal and welded a flat piece to extend it. I am more comforntable with using the side of my foot half way down to blip which worked with the longer pedal.

Take the pedal box cover off and see what options you can see. BTW being anally retentive, I don't like the idea of bending pedals in situ!

Bert

Edited to say throttle, not brake doh

Edited by BertBert on Monday 9th July 16:37

130g

56 posts

183 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I am having the exact same problem with my SV confused
If some one with a "working" setup could post a picture, that would be fantastic smile I know it might not fit 100%, but it would be nice to know what to aim for before applying 2x4's and other blunt force instruments to the seven.

spiderlane

13 posts

210 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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I went down the route of using some pipe to extend the pedal. Details here -> http://blatchat.com/t.asp?id=202654

130g

56 posts

183 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Thanks spider smile However I can't seem to get the pictures in the link to work...am I just being thick? It says that the pictures are private.

spiderlane

13 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Ah, right! Sorry about that. Let me have a look and check the settings.

Cheers
Mark

spiderlane

13 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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I'd reached my limit on the free version of Flickr. Deleted some old pics. Try again here -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/markelane/sets/721576...

Cheers
Mark

130g

56 posts

183 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Much better, thanks mate thumbup

Rick7HPC

14 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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The pedals can be spaced with washers at there pivot do not bend them! Had the same problem..

jimhcat

67 posts

171 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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I looked at bending the pedals too but decided on an easier option.
I found a piece of plastic pipe (it was a waterproof container originally) which was a snug fit through the body of the throttle pedal. I secured it in place with a small nut and bolt drilled through the underside. I have adjusted the length to suit by cutting off more of the plastic.