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jith

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244 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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It was the end of our financial year a few weeks back so I thought I would post up some of the more interesting stuff we got up to in the last year.

This is a 1980 512BB, and I have to say it's one of the best I've ever seen. It is also one of the quickest old cars I've driven; I mean seriously quick. The acceleration in 1st and 2nd actually makes your head spin!!

It's not often you see "inside" a Ferrari so enjoy.


Massive rear engine cover


Beautifully made "spaghetti" exhaust




Huge vented discs, four pot calipers, double wishbone front and rear and Konis....unbeatable!!



Ribbed bottom engine cover and twin oil filters to take care of lubrication in the dry sump system. Note no oil leaks.


Unusual and utterly unobtainable 3 terminal electronic ignition coil




The business end where the power begins. Four triple choke Weber 40 IF3C carbs. Don't put you hand near here when it's running; it'll suck you in!


New but original equipment Michelin XWX on Cromadoras; brutally expensive and only made occasionally in batches!

We prepared it for a trip to the Classic Mille Miglia. Upgrade to Iridium NGKs and carbs setup. Over 3000 miles without a hiccup.

A truly great motor car.

Thank you John for your custom.

J

BlueMR2

9,454 posts

231 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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That must sound awesome as well.

Be nice to get videos of some of these running if you get the time whilst doing the work.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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That looks well used, much better than the perfectly cleaned ones thumbup

iSore

4,011 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Boxers are just epic, one the last truly heroic Ferraris. Hell, even the starter motor sounds heroic.

2slo

1,998 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Along with the original Lamborghini Countach, the 512BB is a timeless shape. Hard to believe that the design (from the predecessor 365BB) is 40 years old. One point regarding the servicing, I thought the 512BB required engine removal, or has that approach been modified in recent years?

jith

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2,752 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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2slo said:
Along with the original Lamborghini Countach, the 512BB is a timeless shape. Hard to believe that the design (from the predecessor 365BB) is 40 years old. One point regarding the servicing, I thought the 512BB required engine removal, or has that approach been modified in recent years?
Depends what you mean by servicing!

If you are talking about the timing belts then yes, the engine has to be removed. Having said that, it is very nice to work on and the engine and transaxle comes out as a complete unit.

J

dbdb

5,175 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I remember seeing one of these in a garage whan I was a child. I was so intimidated by it that when the mechanic asked me if I wanted to sit in it I said no because I was too scared of damaging it! nuts

They really are astonishingly beautiful.

D900SP

459 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Engine and trans removed from a BB512i for timing belt/valve adjustment service.

2slo

1,998 posts

196 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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jith said:
2slo said:
Along with the original Lamborghini Countach, the 512BB is a timeless shape. Hard to believe that the design (from the predecessor 365BB) is 40 years old. One point regarding the servicing, I thought the 512BB required engine removal, or has that approach been modified in recent years?
Depends what you mean by servicing!

If you are talking about the timing belts then yes, the engine has to be removed. Having said that, it is very nice to work on and the engine and transaxle comes out as a complete unit.

J
Yes, that's what I was thinking of (as in major service), thanks.

Drew21

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261 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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those 4-pot brake calipers look exactly the same as those on my BMW 6er, albeit on the front axle. Surely my common or garden 1981 635csi can't share parts with a Ferrari of legend??

Martin350

4,561 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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It is entirely possible.

Some Ferrari from that era use brake pads that are exactly the same as Mk3/Mk4 Ford Escort, I kid you not!


Great pics of the BB there, thanks for posting! cloud9

B Huey

4,881 posts

228 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Thanks for sharing, my dream car as a child in the seventies.

jith

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2,752 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Drew21 said:
those 4-pot brake calipers look exactly the same as those on my BMW 6er, albeit on the front axle. Surely my common or garden 1981 635csi can't share parts with a Ferrari of legend??
They are only slightly different in the following manner. The calipers are made by ATE in Germany and were standard equipment on many high performance cars of that era. If you look at the photo carefully you will see that the calipers are sectioned in 2 matching halves with an insert in the centre. This insert varies in thickness according to the disc thickness required on the particular model. The Ferrari is the thickest I have come across; absolutely huge in fact.

These calipers were superb and gave immense braking power. They are also very easily overhauled and kits are available for them from various sources.

What I love about this car from an engineering standpoint is that it had the best of everything as standard. 4 pot calipers front and rear; Konis; double wishbones; port throttles, etc. Great stuff!!

J

nightflight

814 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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When I was a young lad working at TVR, the then owner of the company had one of these in black with cream leather (his previous car was a Daytona Spyder), and I can remember sitting in it dreaming of owning one one day. Not happened yet, but you never know!

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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jith said:
Drew21 said:
those 4-pot brake calipers look exactly the same as those on my BMW 6er, albeit on the front axle. Surely my common or garden 1981 635csi can't share parts with a Ferrari of legend??
They are only slightly different in the following manner. The calipers are made by ATE in Germany and were standard equipment on many high performance cars of that era. If you look at the photo carefully you will see that the calipers are sectioned in 2 matching halves with an insert in the centre. This insert varies in thickness according to the disc thickness required on the particular model. The Ferrari is the thickest I have come across; absolutely huge in fact.

These calipers were superb and gave immense braking power. They are also very easily overhauled and kits are available for them from various sources.


J
There are also slight differences in where the brake pipes / nipples are . . . . . Found that out years ago when trying to rebuild a set using a combination of parts from BMW and Ferrari variants (just to confuse things further, there are slight differences between 400i and BBi calipers!)

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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They get a bit gummed up if the car isn't used and left outside under a cover for 2 years hehe


lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I adore these Berlinetta Boxers. Saw a couple at the Silverstone Classic this year. Nice thread. thumbup

LuS1fer

43,477 posts

274 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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There is a lovely BB in a garage in Altea. We stopped for a long lingering look. One of the classic designs and I'm no real fan of Ferraris.

CedricN

853 posts

174 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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BB512 ?






btw, like the twin shock setup, strange they couldnt make it work with one smile And the weber noise must be brutal at full throttle! Got a ride in my uncles Dino, this must be twice as nice sound, twice the weber throats and twice the cylinders smile

4rephill

5,165 posts

207 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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CedricN said:
BB512 ?

512BB LM : Chassis # 35523



CedricN said:
btw, like the twin shock setup, strange they couldnt make it work with one smile
There's a lot of weight sat right above that suspension and not that much room to fit it, so twin shocks per side was the easiest solution.